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Eldriken
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If you get a hard knockdown on him in the corner with a sweep or b13, you can do a regular Venom to reverse his wake up and it's safe against them all. No forward dashing and back dashing required.
If you get a hard knockdown on him in the corner with a sweep or b13, you can do a regular Venom to reverse his wake up and it's safe against them all. No forward dashing and back dashing required.
Do you have footage? If you do then Doomsday players just win always. And does that only work against the flash? Is there any timing to it?
Nah. I haven't recorded it. It works against anyone, but it doesn't mean it's safe against every wake up in the game or that it reverses it. You can't reverse Ares' wake up teleports because they're based off of where you are. Wake ups that hit behind characters will hit you out of it, such as Sinestro's Arachnid wake up, Cyborg's uppercut wake up, etc. It doesn't work on Black Adam's Lightning Cage wake up, Wonder Woman's lasso twirl wake up and things like that.
It's better to just use Air Snatch as your AA. It's a lot safer as a standing 3 can likely cause a trade or it can get blown up by certain jump-in attacks and such. I've only found one thing in the entire game that actually trades with Air Snatch and that is Batman's little sparkle attack he does in the air. Everything else seems to lose against it.
fuckin batman again it happens vs grundys air throw also
I've noticed an increase in good Batman players that start off with it at the beginning of a match against Doomsday players. I guess they're catching on that starting off with a j2 isn't gonna get them anywhere other than on their back against Doomsday and the like.
Oh ok I'll probably use that for the corner then for sure, it seems easier. however, this works mid screen as well.
I'll have to check it out. Dashing forward and then jumping back seems like there's too much time in between everything to actually get anything out of it. I mean an actual punish, however.
I set it up in training mode for the computer to auto block after the wake ups and I kept getting the punish. I'll try to get some vid up later if you want.
It's a decent wake up, but if some dude is jumping away, whack him with it. I also occasionally use the MB version after the b13 string to cross people up and confuse them. It's also good for ending certain interactable combos.
Are they doing it after they activate their trait in the corner? If so, yes. A lot of people like to try and jump out after Doomsday uses his trait, but a d2 will stop that.
People sometimes like to try and jump out of a blocked MB Venom to avoid any follow up pressure. Trying to jump after getting hit by a raw Earth Shake midscreen? I dunno wtf they were thinking, lol. But they deserve to eat a d2 if they try that.
Lol true. Thanks for your input man.
You can do the same thing against Wonder Woman. The right spacing against Lasso Spin will cause it to whiff and the second hit of Earth Shake will hit her. While it's only 2%, it's a hard knockdown and you can keep doing it if they're wakeup happy.
