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Question - Grandmaster How to get rid of bad habits ?

Well, first tip, dont ask for help regarding GM on this forum, you'll just get called out for playing him T_T

For real tho ive played GM since release so id be willing to play some games with you for practice if you want :)
 

Wigy

There it is...
Pig of the hut has the best training regime for learning a new character that I've seen. He'll play game after game focusing on one thing only e.g. Using x move as an anti air. Then when he's got that down he moves onto the next thing, not caring if he wins or losing, but just focusing on improving that one element.

The same principle can be applied here.
Been doing that recently with bo's s4

Seems to work. Though i end up getting blown up trying to force it.
 

Addhad

GOD OF EARTHRELM
K so the problem is your neutral is probs bad so I would play fundemental characters so lao Erron Cassie that kinda thang. Try focus on anti airing whiff punishing and trip guarding. After you got that down you can't start worrying about sliding 2 much jumping 3 much and have clone as your only neutral 4 much. After you got whiff punishing anti airing and trip guarding down you will start walking back for more fundemental play. Then you stay on the ground and use your normals more then you will get the neutral game down and that means NO MORE YOLO SLIDES BC OF FFFFFFUNDEMENTALS IMPROVING. Also just play better ppl
 

SneakyTortoise

Official Master of Salt
Director of Content
Been doing that recently with bo's s4

Seems to work. Though i end up getting blown up trying to force it.
Yeah the difficult part is that you try to over use it, i.e. Using it when it shouldn't be used.

But that's a part of the process and helps to identify when it should and shouldn't be used
 

Wigy

There it is...
Yeah the difficult part is that you try to over use it, i.e. Using it when it shouldn't be used.

But that's a part of the process and helps to identify when it should and shouldn't be used
Getting the hang of it now.

Though that move is overrated as an antiar. Reo had it in his top 5 aa list
 
Ok so if this is a problem the best way that has a 100% chance of working is bring the game back to gamestop, sell the game, get like 20$ in cash, go to walmart, buy some food with that money, get a life, make some friends, get a gf, go outside and smell the fresh air, PROFIT. Option 2? Drop gm
 

T-bag

Noob
I do that quite often. Lately I've challenged myself to not slide at all during the match except for corner carry positioning. It's helped me to improve quite a bit and lose that habit of Yolo slides.
 

Tanno

The Fantasy is the Reality of the Mind
Hi tanno, please advise me, what is gm best wake up
Pre-patch, it used to be the EX Burst (Frost Bomb). Now it's only either the wallrun, or the EX slide, or the X-Ray, if you have all the bars filled. If you're patient and you see even a glimpse of a chance, then you should act accordingly. All of this depends of where you are.

There's a chance that they will do their own YOLO moves, like Sub Zero's B2 or Slide, if you keep blocking. You can punish them with those Switching Sides combos, should you get stuck in the corner:

1) B12xxEX IK, RUN, F42T, Tech Roll/Tech Roll and RUN, F12. 25%
2) B12xxEX IK, RUN, B12xxIceball, JOP, F33. 32%
3) B12xxEX IK, RUN, B12xxIceball, JOP, 123xxSlide. 31%
4) B12xxEX IK, RUN, B12xxIceball, JOP, 242, 123xxSlide. 34%
5) B12xxEX Ice Klone, RUN, B12xxIceball, JOP, F12. 28%
6) B12xxEX Ice Klone, RUN, B12xxIceball, Back Throw (This will throw your opponent back to the Ice Klone for more DMG). 29%
7) B12xxEX IK, RUN, B12xxEX Burst, RUN F42T. Dunno about its DMG %. Check this out for me. Just thought of this up just now.

Should you be in the middle, here are those combos I found:

1 meter center
B12xxEX Ice Klone, RUN, B12xxIceball, JOP, B2 (This will punch your opponent back to the Ice Klone for more DMG), RUN, F12. 33%
B12xxEX Ice Klone, RUN, B12xxIceball, JIP, 242, RUN, 123xxSlide. 34%

2 meter center
B12xxEX Ice Klone, RUN, B12xxEX Burst, RUN, B12xxIceball, NJP, B12xx Burst. 41%

Should you punish them in the corner game, here are those combos I found:

Note: In the corner the Ice Klone doesn't work after any string, except of the B33.

B33xxEX Ice Klone, RUN, 123, NJP, JI1, JI1, JI3, F12. 28%
B33xxEX Ice Klone, RUN, 123, B2, D1, D1, D1, F12. 29%
B33xxEX Ice Klone, RUN, 123, NJP, D2, 123xxSlide. 31%

Those B12xxEX IK, RUN act as a RC, which I found out by myself. Maybe it spends a bar, but it's worth a shot just in case. Note that after you use the EX IK, you CANNOT re-summon the IK. If you try this for the corner combos, then you'll see that you cannot even whiff, so the only option is to do B12xxSlide or F12 as enders.
 
Pre-patch, it used to be the EX Burst (Frost Bomb). Now it's only either the wallrun, or the EX slide, or the X-Ray, if you have all the bars filled. If you're patient and you see even a glimpse of a chance, then you should act accordingly. All of this depends of where you are.

There's a chance that they will do their own YOLO moves, like Sub Zero's B2 or Slide, if you keep blocking. You can punish them with those Switching Sides combos, should you get stuck in the corner:

1) B12xxEX IK, RUN, F42T, Tech Roll/Tech Roll and RUN, F12. 25%
2) B12xxEX IK, RUN, B12xxIceball, JOP, F33. 32%
3) B12xxEX IK, RUN, B12xxIceball, JOP, 123xxSlide. 31%
4) B12xxEX IK, RUN, B12xxIceball, JOP, 242, 123xxSlide. 34%
5) B12xxEX Ice Klone, RUN, B12xxIceball, JOP, F12. 28%
6) B12xxEX Ice Klone, RUN, B12xxIceball, Back Throw (This will throw your opponent back to the Ice Klone for more DMG). 29%
7) B12xxEX IK, RUN, B12xxEX Burst, RUN F42T. Dunno about its DMG %. Check this out for me. Just thought of this up just now.

Should you be in the middle, here are those combos I found:

1 meter center
B12xxEX Ice Klone, RUN, B12xxIceball, JOP, B2 (This will punch your opponent back to the Ice Klone for more DMG), RUN, F12. 33%
B12xxEX Ice Klone, RUN, B12xxIceball, JIP, 242, RUN, 123xxSlide. 34%

2 meter center
B12xxEX Ice Klone, RUN, B12xxEX Burst, RUN, B12xxIceball, NJP, B12xx Burst. 41%

Should you punish them in the corner game, here are those combos I found:

Note: In the corner the Ice Klone doesn't work after any string, except of the B33.

B33xxEX Ice Klone, RUN, 123, NJP, JI1, JI1, JI3, F12. 28%
B33xxEX Ice Klone, RUN, 123, B2, D1, D1, D1, F12. 29%
B33xxEX Ice Klone, RUN, 123, NJP, D2, 123xxSlide. 31%

Those B12xxEX IK, RUN act as a RC, which I found out by myself. Maybe it spends a bar, but it's worth a shot just in case. Note that after you use the EX IK, you CANNOT re-summon the IK. If you try this for the corner combos, then you'll see that you cannot even whiff, so the only option is to do B12xxSlide or F12 as enders.
Thank very much for the extremely detailed advise, will print and practice, thanks again
 

GLoRToR

You're my fan if you can't stop shitposting me.
My bad habit is random slides. I play GM from october and cryomancer for like one week. Im pretty good with gm and ok with cryo for a week of play but..... I lose much,especially vs good players becaouse of too much slides. I know I sholuld not do it but I still do . Always thinking "this time it will hit" but gets punished instead.... Same on wake up . Midscreen Ill do like run up slide (thinking he will expect b2 cuz most sz players do run up and b2) but it gets blocked. Anny suggestions ? I was thinking to play a few long sets vs someone without using slide even once .Just like this move didint exists:D Maybe this would help ?
1. Recognise that there is a problem. (I have bad habits)
2. Assess the problem. (I throw out unsafe shit on reaction.)
3. Look out for the problem. (Oops, there, I got blown up for sliding again.)
4. React to the problem. (Oh my god they are blocking low must slide!! Oh wait, no, stop that.)
5. Eliminate the problem. (Okay, when should I use slide instead of when they are blocking low? List goes as follows.)
 
1. Recognise that there is a problem. (I have bad habits)
2. Assess the problem. (I throw out unsafe shit on reaction.)
3. Look out for the problem. (Oops, there, I got blown up for sliding again.)
4. React to the problem. (Oh my god they are blocking low must slide!! Oh wait, no, stop that.)
5. Eliminate the problem. (Okay, when should I use slide instead of when they are blocking low? List goes as follows.)
Nice list, I use slide only after freezing the opponent, 242~run~f33or123xxslide and in the corner in the same basic manner
 
I'm always down to helping Sub players, especially GM mains. hit me up if you want to practice or run sets.
I will be back next week, I will add you, my tag is scott Radasch, I play sub zero grandmaster, I am not any good, but I am improving, I play hard CPU, but I know playing with a human is more unpredictable, and requires skills to read the opponents possible reactions, is overall is a totally different beast, but the CPU has taught me to just not throw out unsafe strings, and builds quick reflexes, which is so important and demanding to be able to play this game, thanks and will send you a friend reques, just remember I am completely new to all of this, do you have and use a Mic, the request will be on ps4