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Hail To The Queen Combo Guide Thread (all variations)

Vslayer

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Notation guide:
xx = dash cancel (she requires 'em bruh so get used to 'em)
amp: amplify
1=square
2=triangle
3=X
4= Circle

Mean Queen Combos

Mid Screen:
21 bf4amp xx 21 bf4 (or db4)
F3 xx 21 bf4amp xx 21 db4 (bf4 will not work cause of gravity)
21 bf3u 21 bf4amp f1 db4
j4 f1 bf4amp xx 21 db4
b122/b211/s12 bf3u f3 dash 21 bf4/db4


Max height D2:
D1 bf4 amp xx 21 bf4 (or db4)

Anti-Air:
S1 21 bf4amp xx 21 bf4 (or db4)
F3 xx 21 bf4amp xx 21 db4

Corner:
Optimal: (Starter) bf3u b122 12 db4
F3 21amp xx f1 db4 or bf4 (to put them back in the corner)
J4 f3 21amp f1 db4

Corner KB:
D2KB d1 d1 21 bf4amp xx 21 db4
D2KB f1 bf4amp f1 bf4

KB:
D2KB 21amp f1 bf4
D2KB 21amp xx 21db4

FB:
21 bf4amp xx 21 FB
F3 xx 21 bf4amp xx 21 FB
j4 f1 bf4amp xx 21 FB

FB + KB:
D2KB 21amp f1 FB

Tick Throws (if crouch blocking):
21 BF4amp *
D1 BF4amp *
D3 BF4amp *
D4 BF4amp *
B211 BF4 amp *
F1 BF4 amp *

If they stand block then just db4

*Follow up with combo of your choice cause we ain't about optimals in this HOUSE, we about DIVERSITY.


 
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Vslayer

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Smash And Grab Combos

This variation is a lot like V3 combo wise, the combos are very similar but instead of bf4, you use the air grab (db1) to pop them up. It does connect differently and obviously only works if the opponent is in the air, so here's what they look like.

Mid Screen:
F3, F3, B122, BF4 23%
F3, F3, B122, DB1 amp, xx 4, BF4 30%
21, DB1 amp, F3, B122, BF4 30%
J4, F1, DB1 amp, B122, BF4 32%
D2KB, F3, B122, BF4 36%
D2KB, F3, B122, DB1 amp, xx 21, BF4 43%
D2KB, xx4, DB1 amp, B122, BF4 43%
D2KB, xx 4, DB1 amp, B122, FB 55%
DB1KB, F3, F3, B122, BF4 33%

Max Height D2:
D1 db1amp xx 21 bf4

Anti-Air:
S1 21 db1amp xx 21 bf4
F3 xx 21 db1amp xx 21 bf4
j4 f3 21 db1amp xx 21 bf4

Corner:
B1221, 12, DB1 amp, B122, BF4 34%
B1221, 12, FB 41%
B1221, 12, DB1 amp, B122, FB 44%
J4, D1, D1, 4, DB1 amp, B122, BF4 34%
D2KB, D1, D1, 4, DB1 amp, B122, BF4 44%
D2KB, D1, D1, 4, DB1 amp, B122, FB 56%

Corner KB:
d2kb d1 d1 21 db1amp xx 21 bf4


KB Miscreen:
d2kb 21 db1amp xx 21 bf4

FB:
f3 2 db1amp xx 21 FB
21 db1amp xx 21 FB
j4 f3 21 db1amp xx 21 FB

FB + KB:
d2kb 21 db1amp xx 21 bf4

 
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Vslayer

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Deadly Dragon Combos

Aight, so after further analysis (by other people because I work all damn day), bf3amp combos off of most grounded strings but will not work on a string like her 21.

Mid-Screen:
Optimal: b122/b211/s12 bf3amp f3 b122 bf4
B211 bf3amp xx 21 bf4
F3 xx 21 db2amp
21 db2 amp or bf4 amp
B122xxbf3amp, microdashxx21xxbf4/db2amp
F1xxbf3amp21bf4/db2amp

Corner:
Optimal: (starter) bf3 amp b211 12 bf4.
21 bf3 amp d1 21 bf4

D2 KB:
21 bf4 amp

D2 + spinning dragon KB:
B211 bf3 amp xx 21 db4 amp

FB:
B211 bf3 amp xx 21 FB

Until I find more stuff for this one I won't make a video considering it would be like 20 seconds long lmao.
 
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Vslayer

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Could we perhaps just make this an all-encompassing combo thread? Doesn't seem like much of a point to (eventually) have 3 separate threads for each variatiom.
Yeah good idea! I’ll add those in the posts I reserved above.
 

Vslayer

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Aight done! Let me know what else y'all find! I'll have to write the damage at one point yikes lmao
 

Cobainevermind87

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In the corner with deadly dragon, the optimal is opener~bf3 amp, b122, s12 bf4.

I'm not sure if this applies to the other variations after their launchers.
 

Cobainevermind87

Mid-match beer sipper
Can confirm b122/12/b211~bf3u, b122, 12db4 works in the corner with Mean Queen as well. If you feel you haven't timed your b122 early enough to allow yourself to recover to input the s12, you can substitute the s12db4 with d1~db4
 

JJParker

Noob
Smash And Grab Combos

This variation is a lot like V3 combo wise, the combos are very similar but instead of bf4, you use the air grab (db1) to pop them up. It does connect differently and obviously only works if the opponent is in the air, so here's what they look like.

Mid Screen:
21 db1amp xx 21 bf4
J4 f1 db1amp xx 21 bf4
f3 2 (1 wont connect) db1amp xx 21 bf4

Max Height D2:
D1 db1amp xx 21 bf4

Anti-Air:
S1 21 bf1amp xx 21 bf4
F3 xx 21 bf1amp xx 21 bf4
j4 f3 21 bf1amp xx 21 bf4

Corner:
f3 21 db1amp 21 bf4
j4 d1 d1 21 bf1amp 21 bf4
21 db1amp d1 d1 21 bf4 (have to verify)

Corner KB:
d2kb d1 d1 21 bf1amp xx 21 bf4


KB Miscreen:
d2kb 21 bf1amp xx 21 bf4

FB:
f3 2 db1amp xx 21 FB
21 bf1amp xx 21 FB
j4 f3 21 bf1amp xx 21 FB

FB + KB:
d2kb 21 bf1amp xx 21 bf4

Lots of BF1 where you were supposed to type DB1 in here dude.
 

JJParker

Noob
Smash and Grab

Mid Screen

F3, F3, B122, BF4 23%
F3, F3, B122, DB1 amp, dash 4, BF4 30%
21, DB1 amp, F3, B122, BF4 30%
J4, F1, DB1 amp, B122, BF4 32%
D2KB, F3, B122, BF4 36%
D2KB, F3, B122, DB1 amp, dash 21, BF4 43%
D2KB, dash 4, DB1 amp, B122, BF4 43%
D2KB, dash 4, DB1 amp, B122, FB 55%
DB1KB, F3, F3, B122, BF4 33%

Corner
B1221, 12, DB1 amp, B122, BF4
34%
B1221, 12, FB 41%
B1221, 12, DB1 amp, B122, FB 44%
J4, D1, D1, 4, DB1 amp, B122, BF4 34%
D2KB, D1, D1, 4, DB1 amp, B122, BF4 44%
D2KB, D1, D1, 4, DB1 amp, B122, FB 56%
 
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Vslayer

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You can do two F3s in a combo? omg okay, I really need to lab tonight.
 

Cobainevermind87

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For any execution masters out there, in both deadly dragon and mean queen (I haven't explored smash and grab yet) after any grounded string into your launcher (bf3 amp or bf3u) you can link a f3 afterwards.

So this gives you stuff like:

b122/b211/s12~bf3amp, f3, b122 bf4 (Deadly Dragon)
b122/b211/s12~bf3u, f3, dash 21~bf4/db4 (Mean Queen)

Getting the f3 after the launch is pretty tight though, it feels like a 1-2 frame link to me. After the f3 though is cake, once you realize how quickly the f3 recovers.
 

Cashual

PSN: Cansuela
Deadly Dragon Combos

So this variation doesn’t have many combos, amp charge combos off 2 strings mid-screen but it does work in the corner (or on most grounded strings so like d1 shield charge might be a thing lmao).

Mid-Screen:
B211 bf3amp xx 21 bf4
F3 xx 21 db2amp
21 db2 amp or bf4 amp

Corner:
Optimal: (starter) bf3 amp b211 12 bf4.
21 bf3 amp d1 21 bf4

D2 KB:
21 bf4 amp

D2 + spinning dragon KB:
B211 bf3 amp xx 21 db4 amp

FB:
B211 bf3 amp xx 21 FB

Until I find more stuff for this one I won't make a video considering it would be like 20 seconds long lmao.
Wait I’m confused. She has a ton of combo options in this variation. B122xxbf3amp, microdashxx21xxbf4/db2amp or not combos midscreen.

Also, 12xxbf3amp combos too.

As a midscreen whiff punisher, I use F1xxbf3amp21bf4/db2amp (if I want to build the kb).

So she can combo off of like 5 strings midscreen in v2.
 

Vslayer

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That's why y'all here, I play V3 and I just quickly labbed the other ones to get started. :oops:
 

Cashual

PSN: Cansuela
That's why y'all here, I play V3 and I just quickly labbed the other ones to get started. :oops:
No worries man, I just wasn’t sure if I wasn’t understanding or had missed something.

Also, you can use f44 as a starter as well and use the normal follow ups. Looking forward to adding the f3 mid combo, seems good.

But, yeah, Deadly Dragon is very straight forward and appears to be the typical “simple” variation where you hit confirm a string and get good damage.
 

Cobainevermind87

Mid-match beer sipper
Deadly Dragon is meant to make up for Sheeva's lack of range. The 12 frame quarter screen mid launcher in bf3amp is crucial when dealing with noobs, kotals, kollectors, etc.


And some proof on concept from what I posted earlier about the f3 after launcher. I'd never make it my BnB because my execution isn't godlike and I'd drop it more often than not but it is there:


Deadly Dragon optimal 1 and 2 bar corner combos

 
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Vslayer

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Ohhhh Nice, since I labbed DD I have been meaning to actually give it a go cause her stubby range is really frustrating sometimes. F1 and b3 are great tools in MQ tho.
 

Cobainevermind87

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Ohhhh Nice, since I labbed DD I have been meaning to actually give it a go cause her stubby range is really frustrating sometimes. F1 and b3 are great tools in MQ tho.
I fawkin love her back 3 lol. It functions like a short hop should have worked, KBs if it crushes a low poke. And the range! Fortunately we were lucky enough to get it after Terminator, to hell with the base roster :rolleyes:
 

Cashual

PSN: Cansuela
Deadly Dragon is meant to make up for Sheeva's lack of range. The 12 frame quarter screen mid launcher in bf3amp is crucial when dealing with noobs, kotals, kollectors, etc.


And some proof on concept from what I posted earlier about the f3 after launcher. I'd never make it my BnB because my execution isn't godlike and I'd drop it more often than not but it is there:


Deadly Dragon optimal 1 and 2 bar corner combos

Good work man! Are other Sheeva’s doing the f3 midcombo? I actually labbed it and I think it’s pretty doable, and could be the bnb at higher levels.