I think Chernyy is a fool as most people do, but he should be permitted to post and discuss whatever he wishes as long as he complies with the website's regulations. Who are the moderators to dictate who and when a user is allowed to create a tier list thread? Most content creators are already discussing tier lists on their YouTube channels, which are allowed to be discussed (i.e. REO, Sajam) on TYM, yet everybody on TYM is banned from creating tier list threads. Inconsistent and silly. @STORMS should evaluate this rule.Didn't your last tier list thread get shut down? And I know this says "First impression match up chart" but come on lol
Except this specific post is WHAT PEOPLE BITCH ABOUT TYM FOR IN THE FIRST PLACE. How do you not see this as a issue? I’m willing to bet there is 100% chance he hasn’t played all 25 characters at the highest level or against. It’s literally impossible. Half of these tier lists and mu shit is theory crafting and people looking at tools/ what gives them a hard time in games. Not the actual fucking matchup I don’t even know the matchup to Skarlet,Jade,Baraka,Scorpion and they’ve been playable for months. There is still new shit to learn. Stuff to lab. We don’t know everything yet. Look at Jacqui. Just a week ago she was ass, now all of a sudden she’s S tier? Do you see my point. This thread is dumb. And should be closed period. These types of threads become toxic WAY too fast because people can’t agree on literally anything because it’s just way too damn early. We are not Youtube. We are not Twitter. Nor reddit. I personally don’t care what other people post on other sites. Not my business to care. But for the integrity of this one, and my sanity(and other mods) TIER LISTS, not matchup discussions, should not be posted AT LEAST until after combo breaker.I think Chernyy is a fool as most people do, but he should be permitted to post and discuss whatever he wishes as long as he complies with the website's regulations. Who are the moderators to dictate who and when a user is allowed to create a tier list thread? Most content creators are already discussing tier lists on their YouTube channels, which are allowed to be discussed (i.e. REO, Sajam) on TYM, yet everybody on TYM is banned from creating tier list threads. Inconsistent and silly. @STORMS should evaluate this rule.
I mean it's not the same list at all and has the matchup numbers listed specifically for Scorpion. The mods even said the tier lists are based on MUs and those should be discussed first, so that is what he is doing.Didn't your last tier list thread get shut down? And I know this says "First impression match up chart" but come on lol
People bitch about TYM because random posters like to argue (raises hand) and theory craft and pro players don't automatically get praised or trusted about everything they post. Has nothing to do with tier list threads. There is a ton of really stupid stuff on the front page rn like buff or nerf threads which are just as knee jerk reactionary but what you guys aren't getting is that discussing this stuff is fun for a lot of people. There is barely any discussion on the site anymore due to discord and twitter so killing discussion on something like tier lists doesn't make sense.Except this specific post is WHAT PEOPLE BITCH ABOUT TYM FOR IN THE FIRST PLACE. How do you not see this as a issue? I’m willing to bet there is 100% chance he hasn’t played all 25 characters at the highest level or against. It’s literally impossible. Half of these tier lists and mu shit is theory crafting and people looking at tools/ what gives them a hard time in games. Not the actual fucking matchup I don’t even know the matchup to Skarlet,Jade,Baraka,Scorpion and they’ve been playable for months. There is still new shit to learn. Stuff to lab. We don’t know everything yet. Look at Jacqui. Just a week ago she was ass, now all of a sudden she’s S tier? Do you see my point. This thread is dumb. And should be closed period. These types of threads become toxic WAY too fast because people can’t agree on literally anything because it’s just way too damn early. We are not Yourube. We are not Twitter. Nor reddit. I personally don’t care what other people post on other sites. Not my business to care. But for the integrity of this one, and my sanity(and other mods) TIER LISTS, not matchup discussions, should not be posted AT LEAST until after combo breaker.
Who cares if tier lists are 100% accurate right now. They're fun to make and talking about them and the characters involved at different spots and why people think they're in certain spots can really promote some good conversation. A whole bunch of threads on this site aren't 100% accurate.Except this specific post is WHAT PEOPLE BITCH ABOUT TYM FOR IN THE FIRST PLACE. How do you not see this as a issue? I’m willing to bet there is 100% chance he hasn’t played all 25 characters at the highest level or against. It’s literally impossible. Half of these tier lists and mu shit is theory crafting and people looking at tools/ what gives them a hard time in games. Not the actual fucking matchup I don’t even know the matchup to Skarlet,Jade,Baraka,Scorpion and they’ve been playable for months. There is still new shit to learn. Stuff to lab. We don’t know everything yet. Look at Jacqui. Just a week ago she was ass, now all of a sudden she’s S tier? Do you see my point. This thread is dumb. And should be closed period. These types of threads become toxic WAY too fast because people can’t agree on literally anything because it’s just way too damn early. We are not Yourube. We are not Twitter. Nor reddit. I personally don’t care what other people post on other sites. Not my business to care. But for the integrity of this one, and my sanity(and other mods) TIER LISTS, not matchup discussions, should not be posted AT LEAST until after combo breaker.
I believe we were just deterring day 1 tier lists at first. Absolutely no bans should come from that...I think Chernyy is a fool as most people do, but he should be permitted to post and discuss whatever he wishes as long as he complies with the website's regulations. Who are the moderators to dictate who and when a user is allowed to create a tier list thread? Most content creators are already discussing tier lists on their YouTube channels, which are allowed to be discussed (i.e. REO, Sajam) on TYM, yet everybody on TYM is banned from creating tier list threads. Inconsistent and silly. @STORMS should evaluate this rule.
I'm never in support of censorship, unless it's an attitude check and we're weeding out certain behaviours.I believe we were just deterring day 1 tier lists at first. Absolutely no bans should come from that...
By all means, tier lists are definitely something to discuss at this point.
Even if tier lists threads got excess, there are ways around it... either keeping all of the discussion in on thread or creating a forum for that particular discussion.
We are a forum... discussion and community is our purpose.
@Eldriken
You have no idea what you’re talking about. Tier list is 100% NOT ACCURATE because NOBODY has the matchup experience to say so. But alright have it you’re way I’m personally going to stay clear of these threads. I’m not dealing with the nonsense that comes with it so I defer it all to the other mods.Who cares if tier lists are 100% accurate right now. They're fun to make and talking about them and the characters involved at different spots and why people think they're in certain spots can really promote some good conversation. A whole bunch of threads on this site aren't 100% accurate.
Jade a 5-5 for Scorpion. On what planet lol
So you're saying that tier list threads are a go? If so, fine. But if that's the case, every mod here needs to be ready to weather the inevitable shit storm and garbage that's gonna be getting spewed all over the place because people are incapable of discussing things in a civil manner.I believe we were just deterring day 1 tier lists at first. Absolutely no bans should come from that...
By all means, tier lists are definitely something to discuss at this point.
Even if tier lists threads got excess, there are ways around it... either keeping all of the discussion in on thread or creating a forum for that particular discussion.
We are a forum... discussion and community is our purpose.
@Eldriken
I highly doubt any person on TYM will ever play with or against all 25 characters at the highest possible level.I’m willing to bet there is 100% chance he hasn’t played all 25 characters at the highest level or against. It’s literally impossible. Half of these tier lists and mu shit is theory crafting and people looking at tools/ what gives them a hard time in games.
If people are not permitted to discuss tier lists on TYM, they will discuss them somewhere else (i.e., Facebook, Reddit, Twitter, etc.). I would like to think the moderators are more than capable of doing their jobs if arguments become hostile.So you're saying that tier list threads are a go? If so, fine. But if that's the case, every mod here needs to be ready to weather the inevitable shit storm and garbage that's gonna be getting spewed all over the place because people are incapable of discussing things in a civil manner.
Then you don’t read itExcept this specific post is WHAT PEOPLE BITCH ABOUT TYM FOR IN THE FIRST PLACE. How do you not see this as a issue? I’m willing to bet there is 100% chance he hasn’t played all 25 characters at the highest level or against. It’s literally impossible. Half of these tier lists and mu shit is theory crafting and people looking at tools/ what gives them a hard time in games. Not the actual fucking matchup I don’t even know the matchup to Skarlet,Jade,Baraka,Scorpion and they’ve been playable for months. There is still new shit to learn. Stuff to lab. We don’t know everything yet. Look at Jacqui. Just a week ago she was ass, now all of a sudden she’s S tier? Do you see my point. This thread is dumb. And should be closed period. These types of threads become toxic WAY too fast because people can’t agree on literally anything because it’s just way too damn early. We are not Youtube. We are not Twitter. Nor reddit. I personally don’t care what other people post on other sites. Not my business to care. But for the integrity of this one, and my sanity(and other mods) TIER LISTS, not matchup discussions, should not be posted AT LEAST until after combo breaker.
It wasn't something that would be forbidden forever. It just wasn't gonna be allowed until determined otherwise, which happens to be today.I highly doubt any person on TYM will ever play with or against all 25 characters at the highest possible level.
Half of tier lists and match ups is theory. You then put the theory to the test by playing the game and leveling up. The process is similar to conducting a scientific experimenting.
If people are not permitted to discuss tier lists on TYM, they will discuss them somewhere else (i.e., Facebook, Reddit, Twitter, etc.). I would like to think the moderators are more than capable of doing their jobs if arguments become hostile.
Your list seems very unsure. I don’t think he has that many 5-5 MUs.
Dave ok that is all correct, except THIS IS WEEK 4 OR 5. not month 6 or even month 4... tier list this early is stupid. djt is rightI highly doubt any person on TYM will ever play with or against all 25 characters at the highest possible level.
Half of tier lists and match ups is theory. You then put the theory to the test by playing the game and leveling up. The process is similar to conducting a scientific experimenting.
already ahead of you. i said that i wont. period.Then you don’t read it
I honestly could not care less about the tier lists as much as I care about the discussion and rationale. People can read both sides of the argument, including the stupid ones, and make up their own minds based on their personal experiences and observations. This process is called learning.Dave ok that is all correct, except THIS IS WEEK 4 OR 5. not month 6 or even month 4... tier list this early is stupid. djt is right.