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Erron needs some changes

ABACABB

End Of Humanity
I know many of you think erron is best in the game at this moment , but trust me - he isnt . As time will go on he will fall down on tier list and may end up as mid or even low mid tier .
I made a reasonable list of changes that he should get in next patch.

1 - fix that b222 and 21121 strings , unnecessary execution barrier on it. Why you need to press buttons so fast to perform said strings ? needs fixing
2 - he should start with at least 10 or more bullets , 8 is not enough considering fight often goes to third round and reloading is very slow .
3 - during rifle stance he should be able to stand in place and shoot without walking forward and also add option to walk back and shoot .
4 - this is just a bug fix , some projectiles still hit him while he is in scud shot stance , needs fixing

thoughts ?
 

Marinjuana

Up rock incoming, ETA 5 minutes
1 - fix that b222 and 21121 strings , unnecessary execution barrier on it. Why you need to press buttons so fast to perform said strings ? needs fixing
B222 is a perfect example of why NRS has this mechanic where you need to mash out a string. It's a Mid~Overhead~Overhead string that can be made safe with scud shot, confirms into big damage and has a low slide mixup on every hit(though it is possible to fuzzy block). That's a god damn great string, so what are the drawbacks? First off, there is no B22 to stagger with, if you want the overhead from B22, you need to do the whole B222. Secondly, if you mash out the string and whiff the first hit, you are now faced with a ton of recovery. So if you want to oki with B222, you need to accept that risk of them rolling out and whiff punishing you. So it has that downside, that's balance. This same idea applies to almost all of these types of strings, that type of input limits stagger opportunities and makes them have more recovery.
 

DrFolmer

AKA Uncle Kano
I think you're being a little modest with the changes. His slide should be safe to make his 50/50 equal in risk reward. He should also have A-List frames on Scud cancels in strings because - what good does a cancel do if it's not even plus like wtf. Johnny gets plus frames off his FB cancel - we cant even cancel ours. Nerf Johnny. That flashparry needs to go. How is s2 a high like, how am I supposed to win with this character. "You have meterless launchers" but so does Geras and his is safe. Why does Scud Shot projectile cost a bar when rifle shots dont cost a bar? That needs to go so he's consistent all round. Erron is just a few changes from being viable. Look at how much work Hayatei had to do to beat trash Tekken Master's OP Sonya #Erronisallgimmicks
 

ABACABB

End Of Humanity
i know you are a serious poster so I'll laugh at this good humor thread.

i just wish Jacqui's 9f mid was faster :(
yeah I made this thread to look like its serious but ofc it was joke. I dont even play erron , tried to but sucked with him lol Sub zero is my man for now :D Ppl still want him to get nerfed?
 

DDutchguy

Raiden enthusiast
yeah I made this thread to look like its serious but ofc it was joke. I dont even play erron , tried to but sucked with him lol Sub zero is my man for now :D Ppl still want him to get nerfed?
Worst part is that there are people on TYM that would unironically make this type of post which is why a bunch of people here took it seriously in the first place

Including myself
 

x TeeJay o

Canary Cry Gapless Pressure
Moderator
yeah I made this thread to look like its serious but ofc it was joke. I dont even play erron , tried to but sucked with him lol Sub zero is my man for now :D Ppl still want him to get nerfed?
Next time add a lul or kappa bruh. Was about to ban you free . Lol jk jk
 

LawAbidingCitizen

On Probation Till Further Notice
I think you're being a little modest with the changes. His slide should be safe to make his 50/50 equal in risk reward. He should also have A-List frames on Scud cancels in strings because - what good does a cancel do if it's not even plus like wtf. Johnny gets plus frames off his FB cancel - we cant even cancel ours. Nerf Johnny. That flashparry needs to go. How is s2 a high like, how am I supposed to win with this character. "You have meterless launchers" but so does Geras and his is safe. Why does Scud Shot projectile cost a bar when rifle shots dont cost a bar? That needs to go so he's consistent all round. Erron is just a few changes from being viable. Look at how much work Hayatei had to do to beat trash Tekken Master's OP Sonya #Erronisallgimmicks
Are you to fucking serious? Erron is lacking nowhere, he is great close, mid and Far has Scud to counter projectiles, some of the best mids in the game, safe on everything, his neutral is full screen (F4), he can mix you with F4?, on top of that he has insane mix from B222/21212 into slide(its Fuzzyable but not easy) he is literally top 3 no doubt. I haven't found a single pro who hasn't placed him Top 5 or even Top 3.
Sonya has weaknesses lacking mids and starring all mix with pokeable highs. Erron does not, he either has a hard matchup or dominates the entire cast. He is literally one of the only characters that counter Scorpion.
The sad thing is this isn't everything he has, he basically has no weakness being sage on everything and being able to turn any string into mix with ScudShot.
 

Hellbringer

On your knees!
Premium Supporter
Are you to fucking serious? Erron is lacking nowhere, he is great close, mid and Far has Scud to counter projectiles, some of the best mids in the game, safe on everything, his neutral is full screen (F4), he can mix you with F4?, on top of that he has insane mix from B222/21212 into slide(its Fuzzyable but not easy) he is literally top 3 no doubt. I haven't found a single pro who hasn't placed him Top 5 or even Top 3.
Sonya has weaknesses lacking mids and starring all mix with pokeable highs. Erron does not, he either has a hard matchup or dominates the entire cast. He is literally one of the only characters that counter Scorpion.
The sad thing is this isn't everything he has, he basically has no weakness being sage on everything and being able to turn any string into mix with ScudShot.
U are getting trolled in a troll thread bruh