You can't nerf SonicFox. He's the reason he did great, not the character he plays.
I don't take him AS seriously since he said Sub's bottom tier and his overhead is 100% reactable online lmao
He then proceeded to not react to it 100% himself.
I think everyone listens & takes him seriously to some kind of degree, but he ALSO said "SS Vegeta sucks" in DBFZ when everyone said he was really good especially his assist vanilla which resulted into a lot of people hounding him because a lot of players that he lost to were Vegeta players. GO1 being one of the main ones & then he challenged him to the 1st to 10 the 1st time. Now out of the other times, Sonic Fox has been phenomenal against the DBFZ community, but a lot of them also aren't afraid to speak up & say if they agree/disagree. Most in this community outside of a few I see on Twitter in most cases are afraid to disagree with him like they have some kind of knife to their throats or something.Sadly I think he is being serious. I don't think she is broke, there are many things wrong with her but in that variation there is some things going for her that can be strong.
What he is saying is her D4 is free spacing and the +3 is free respect/turns once conditioned.
To Sonic this translates to Broke
I don't think she is top tier or broke. just decent in that variation with some strong tools.
But I don't think Sonic is using her to prove anything. From what I know about Sonic, he only uses characters he thinks has strong tools that he can exploit.
Cassie, Jax, Nightwolf, D'Vorah, and now Jaded for the pressure and range.
I'm willing to bet Sonic uses Johnny way more than Jade. I don't think Jade does the best vs the entire cast so he is gonna be picking Outtake JC the majority. He says Outtake is Top 3. He is literally calling Johnny the new Cassie since he got her Glow kick right when she lost it and he has a good D4 for spacing and amazing Footsie not to mention 9f mid forceballs.
I don't think everyone should automatically agree with Sonic on everything but he does see potential in characters before others. Remember when he said Kotal and Shao was good and can play the meta just fine in the first month? Everyone said Shao, Kotal where garbage. He did FT10's with top players beating them using those characters B4 patches. Then VideoGamezYo comes along with Shao making 4th only using Jax for a couple MU's.
Furious Pillow & Azeez as well as Quark all made top 16's using Kotal when he was bottom tier on every list.
Sonic also labbed up stuff I never seen the other top players use long before we see others use it in majors. Then Everyone criticized sonics TL and then he showed them new tech and all of a sudden Deoxys and others came out with Tier Lists deathly close to Sonics.
He clearly understands the game better than most.
But he has made wild claims before and is generally hyperbole about everything so its hard to tell when he is right and wrong. And many just write his word in gold Tablets.
I take his opinions seriously but always test it for myself and get several other high level players opinions before I believe it fully.
I remember when he said Subs was top tier then said F2 was reactable for him. Later after playing Scars and Foxy's Sub he changed his mind saying it wasn't reactable when used from footsie range. It was mostly that 90% of the tournament substance where easy to react to having similar tendencies that made him feel a 19f overhead was reactable. Many corrected him stating that its damn near impossible for a player to react to 20f moves when they have more than 4 things to look out for as options. Not to mention overhead/lows, strike/throw, staggers, jik empty, JIK early, frame traps, throw, D4 adv etc.Mk11 Sub-Zero he 1st said he was stupid & broken, now Sub-Zero isn't that good anymore (when this is clearly not the case). He runs through characters like day & night. The moment he picks up a character or drops them, people follow.
TO be fair D'Vorah has some really dirty setplay. Only thing bad about her is she needs to constantly improvise.He's the best there is and he'll play whoever he wants, and he took D'Vorah to grand finals which speaks volumes of how he's handling his choice of character lately. He also said Sub-Zero is bottom tier and then went and wrecked faces with him in exhib matches
Everything you said is false.LawAbidingCitizen you very often likes to said thing that pro said, when they actually never said them, like SonicFox said Jade is broken or when he admit that Sub Zero F2 isnt reactable.
Be my guess to post videos of him saying this things.
As far as Jade goes, she is bottom 5, no matter what Fox said. Even he have many problems with her and lost badly with her against top players like ninja with that 10-1 against Liu Kang.
He also goes life and death on this tournament with Jade. And it was mainly because of the character.
And then he brought out Johnny Cage to stomp his Cetrion.That's some passive aggressive false equivalence going on. Dragon's Kitana vs. Jaded is an entirely different issue than Dragon STOMPING Fox's Jaded as Cetrion.
I.. I'm so flabbergasted right now. What you're talking about has 0 bearing on the current topic of "ECT 2019 Jade Matches." Take it to https://testyourmight.com/threads/ect-2019-top-8-results-and-breakdown.72134/And then he brought out Johnny Cage to stomp his Cetrion.
Call it what you want but this has been a running theme for MK11's first year, I'm hoping Sindel will help him in situations where Cetrion doesn't work out.
Jaded closes the gap better and threatens Cetrion. Cetrion just shits on Emerald. Emerald is literally helpless in that matchup. You glow, you get teleported or vined. You try to zone, you get outzoned / teleported on. You try to get in, on Cetrion? Really? Think again.I don't understand how Emerald Defender wouldn't have been a better pick against Cetrion than Jaded. But im just a skrub
Oh, did I touch a nerve somewhere?everything you say is invalid, of course.
you are a pretty bad, irrelevant online-only player. you were never even decent, you have always been trash.
that being said, you also must be really sick in your head if you believe that the nonsense you have been allowed to post on this site, has any value or any relevance.
You're delusional if you think that kid plays low tier just to impress people like you. He doesn't give a shit about anything but winning.What I mean is he's making it a point to bring commonly low-interest characters to tournaments and show off his skill by playing characters that are below the point of balance lately.