Tech - Dualist Dualist Community we have been let down

[FOREVER EL1TE]

So we seen the kombat kast.
Buffs:
•Damage charge up now stays
changes that were in the beta that wasn't announced
•Healing is better
Nerfs that affected dualist:
F213 cancel advantage is lowered meaning that our most plus stance switch is like +2 unless they buffed his stance switch.

So we will have to switch up our gameplay. Based on damage setups and not frame traps.

Idk how I can use dualist, I hope maybe there's a plethora of buffs for dualist in the patch notes or that is hidden. Otherwise dualist is bottom tier.

@AK L0rdoftheFLY @Kickbykick @Phosferrax @Bruno-NeoSpace
@Anyone who plays dualist and were destroyed by these pitiful changes

 

[MrSunshine]

I'm sorry for your loss

 

[Colest]

Do to be fair, they didn't say that his 213 cancel advantage was nerfed on screen. Maybe I missed it but that change could have been reverted since loops with meterburn fly kick should be gone now with 0 cancel advantage.

 

[Phosferrax]

RIP

 

[ninjutsubreh]

that was a big let down for dualist

 

[PapaRegadetho]

I was looking forward to Dualist buffs, only to be disappointed once again. Hopefully his whiffing issues have been at least fixed...

 

[just_2swift]

Wow

 

[Kickbykick]

Nah Bruh. AM DONE!

 

[EMPR_MURK]

What were the liu changes? I missed them being at my kid's talent show.

 

[FOREVER EL1TE]

What were the liu changes? I missed them being at my kid's talent show.

Dragon kick MB is neutral along with dualist damage buff staying on hit

 

[Frenzy]

Hopefully dualist gets a plethora of hidden buffs. Also, maybe there's hope that the f213 string isn't nerfed like it is in the beta.

 

[EMPR_MURK]

Hopefully they will allow for at least a 8f d1

 

[Phosferrax]

What were the liu changes? I missed them being at my kid's talent show.

Nothing different from the beta.

 

[Goat-City]

So we seen the kombat kast.
Buffs:
•Damage charge up now stays
changes that were in the beta that wasn't announced
•Healing is better
Nerfs that affected dualist:
F213 cancel advantage is lowered meaning that our most plus stance switch is like +2 unless they buffed his stance switch.

So we will have to switch up our gameplay. Based on damage setups and not frame traps.

Idk how I can use dualist, I hope maybe there's a plethora of buffs for dualist in the patch notes or that is hidden. Otherwise dualist is bottom tier.

@AK L0rdoftheFLY @Kickbykick @Phosferrax @Bruno-NeoSpace
@Anyone who plays dualist and were destroyed by these pitiful changes

If 21f3's cancel advantage stays with this nerf, what do you think Dualist would need to be viable to compensate?

 

[Awkward Sloth]

The struggle of playing an under represented variation in this game. I feel your pain as a pyro player.

All they told us was better recovery on fireballs. Ggs

 

[PapaRegadetho]

Dragon kick MB is neutral along with dualist damage buff staying on hit

16bit mentioned its less plus on block, MAYBE 0 on block. So nothing changed from the beta..

 

[FOREVER EL1TE]

If 21f3's cancel advantage stays with this nerf, what do you think Dualist would need to be viable to compensate?

10 frames of recovery removed from stance switch. Actually like 5 would be ok.
That would help dualist so much

 

[xxFalcon Loverxx]

You still main dualist?

You're brave.

 

[Skedar70]

I was playing a dualist player in the beta and he was doing f213 into stance switch and continuing pressure. I wasn't able to poke out with Mileenas d1 or d3 so I came into the forums and noticed that they said this cancel was very plus. This was in the beta, is this the pressure you guys are saying was nerfed??? It felt pretty plus to me.

 

[GreatKungLao]

I'm sorry I wasn't loud enough with that thread about needed buffs we all made. Or maybe it still wouldn't matter. There is so much Dualist needs to become tournament viable variation and with XL coming soon and NRS moving to their next project, I'm afraid this is the end for Dualist Liu Kang.

 

[Derptile]

So much for viability lol, if any character could ever qualify as abysmal it would be dualist.

 

[colby4898]

The only good pressure he gets then is ex bf1 then.

 

[Kickbykick]

I feel they won't nerf f213 in the patch. I pray they don't.

 

[Kickbykick]

No panic guys dualist is still good. From the new patch, he basically has all what he had in the last patch. All he got was the damage buff staying on hit. And dont be excited, ex orb doesnt combo with strings on hit, lol. So f213 ss is still +5(can still beat mileena's ball roll with f4). Also they didn't Buff his SS cause b12 SS is still -8. The cancel adv data is wrong tho, but if you test the char you would see that it's pretty much the same. Yayyyyy. Dualist Main forever !!!!!

 

[Kickbykick]

He's healing is still the worst move in the game tho. No difference. And no ex healing lol