Do Monitors Make That Big Of A Difference?

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  1. The Abbot

    The Abbot Unit LK-52O

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    A simple question for serious gamers out there.

    Are monitors required for high level gaming?

    I have always played on a TV set. I currently have a Panasonic TC-P42S1 and I recently saw a post about monitors.

    Do all the high level players play on monitors and do they make that big of a difference?

    I don't know what the input lag is on this particular model but it does have a game mode.

    Would those extra lost frames be significant enough against those high level opponents?

    I work often and when I am home and management to find time to play, I want to be as competitive as possible. So if monitors are more necessary to achieve this, it might be worth the investment.
     
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  2. jmt

    jmt Noob

    Put it this way, after playing on a big tv only and then going down to my local for the first time, I couldn't hit my combos. Was dropping all my bnbs.

    It definitely matters. So I ended up buying a monitor.
     
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  3. AK L0rdoftheFLY

    AK L0rdoftheFLY I hatelove this game
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    I did not read thread...




    Yes
     
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  4. Trauma_and_Pain

    Trauma_and_Pain Filthy Casual

    Monitors definitely aren't required. But it depends on the game.

    Regarding "lost frames", most aspects of displays are for maximizing accuracy to the source image for enjoyment, but they don't particularly help gaming performance.

    As long as the refresh rate and resolution are high enough your performance should do fine. I consider 60 fps something of requirement for action-ish games. Lots of televisions can do that.

    Everything in addition to those in a modern (digital) display is basically to make things look a bit nicer.
     
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  5. AK L0rdoftheFLY

    AK L0rdoftheFLY I hatelove this game
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    I read the thread...



    Yes. It's the first step to NOT playing at a disadvantage. Only then can you level up against high level players
     
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  6. TackyHaddock

    TackyHaddock Salty Mashers Krew
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    Yeah, bottom line is you will drop stuff at any tournament or locall if you practice on a tv.
     
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  7. The Abbot

    The Abbot Unit LK-52O

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    Do you think MKX is one of those games that might need a monitor? I do play other games but don't take them as serious as MK
     
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  8. 21122

    21122 Premium Supporter
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    Yes and you should be playing MK on your TV in game mode if you aren't already.
     
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  9. Trauma_and_Pain

    Trauma_and_Pain Filthy Casual

    If you're only talking about performance and not enjoyment, then all you really need is a display with 60Hz refresh rate. You won't be losing any frames that way since the game is locked at 60 fps except during intros etc...
     
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  10. The Abbot

    The Abbot Unit LK-52O

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    Not concerned with the quality of the picture all that much.

    Only worry is if I am losing frames which indirectly at some sort of level may affect the outcome of a match.
     
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  11. If I'm understanding this correctly, it seems to be less of a TV versus monitor type of thing and more of having a display with a sufficient/best possible refresh rate type of thing.
     
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  12. sub_on_dubs

    sub_on_dubs Nerf me till I'll melt

    Yes. The gameplay is much smoother and much more responsive. It's a must for serious gamers.
     
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  13. dennycascade

    dennycascade UPR_ghastem

    Definitely get a monitor bro, before I got mine I was 100% free to crossups, close range projectiles, hit confirms, scorpion's f4 and other non-mixups and basically anything that required reactions. When I played on my TV I felt like I was basically playing on nothing but reads, throwing shots in the dark.
     
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  14. Trauma_and_Pain

    Trauma_and_Pain Filthy Casual

    Response time is a factor as most monitors are like 2-8ms response time. Tvs tend to be a bit slower than that, but there are televisions out there with very respectable response times, easily competitive with monitors. It's all in the specs. Just depends on the exact model.

    Some televisions have terrible response times at 30ms or maybe more.

    I would say for high level fast paced gaming, try to stick under 12ms. The lower, the better. And prioritize 60Hz refresh rate or higher, and you're set.

    It's still far less important than player ability.
     
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  15. The Abbot

    The Abbot Unit LK-52O

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    Dude, that's exactly how I feel right now. I do well offensively but when I am on the ropes sometimes I feel defenseless. Like I just can't react
     
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  16. AK L0rdoftheFLY

    AK L0rdoftheFLY I hatelove this game
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    I never played MKX on my 50 inch LED tv till a month ago. It has a "game mode" that doesn't lag too match but it still noticeably lags more than my Asus computer monitor I bought in 2011 after my first Evo for MK9 where I got top 16.

    MKX looks 10000x better on my tv than my monitor but getting rid of that lag is worth it.
     
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  17. the.hamburglar

    the.hamburglar Alien keeps me up at night

    Wait so a monitor isn't a tv? I always assumed they were the same.
     
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  18. This is the answer you're looking for, Abbott
     
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  19. B. Shazzy

    B. Shazzy Retired Best Batman
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    i used to have a regular tv and at locals i literally couldn't do combos on their monitors
     
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  20. Hi, what I'm gathering from the replies is that the answer is yes because tournaments are played on monitors, if they were played on regular big screen tv's then the opposite would be true also.
     
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  21. Dizzy

    Dizzy False Information Police Officer
    Premium Supporter NetherRealm Studios

    Not really, response time isn't tied to display lag, which is why certain monitors are preferred for fighting games. In an attempt to keep input lag reasonably low.

    Display lag generally isn't listed by manufacturers.

    Check out displaylag.com to see which monitors have low display lag.
     
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  22. freakwency

    freakwency Noob

    im also not bothered to read much into this because the bottomline answer is yes. good luck trying to land reptiles bnbs going from hd lcd tv to a monitor. basically you want all the practice you can get on those things at least shlw uo an hour ealry to practice combos on them they are significantly fastastet i dropped the game winning combo in the last tournament i went to simply becuase they are so much faster i hit the input what seemed like the same time but came out to quick and myopponenent was still too hu
    high up in the air i whiffes and he fulled combo punished to take the tourny. so yes yes the monitors matter
     
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  23. I recently bought a benq monitor and I defintely felt the difference right away. Now I don't have to worry about dropping my combos at my locals.
     
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  24. You're 100% correct about display lag being a factor, and that is in fact why fighting games were often played on CRT's until suitable monitors became affordable enough. (I think some people still prefer to play on them.)
     
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  25. flappysamyhamy

    flappysamyhamy EMPEROR FLAPPY / EGGPLANT

    It depends on how serious you are about mkx. A monitor is a pretty big purchase considering it's just a videogame but if you really wanna step it up then go for it!
     
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