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Harlequin969

Always press buttons
I hit more anti air D2s last night than with CSZ than I have in the last year with FT. This character is my shit right now. Not to mention F2 as an anti air when they try to jump a bomb from fullscreen
F2 anti airs are great. I've caught people jumping with that so often
 

Harlequin969

Always press buttons
Not gonna lie, the corner game has gotten a bit better as i dont have to fear armored launchers, people just try to jump out mostly and get it with 212, 111 or NJP.
What are the other setups to catch people jumping out of f2 bomb. I've been trying to use b2 and njp
 
What are the other setups to catch people jumping out of f2 bomb. I've been trying to use b2 and njp
21 is great for discouraging jumping out of they block your plus 2 and can grab immediately to get the bomb to freeze them. Throwing that in with oki bomb b2 will catch low blockers with the OH (no bomb freeze) then do your corner combo and end it early with 114 icebomb or 11/111 icebomb and MIIIIXXX lol its lovely. Ive also been doing EX ice bomb cross up punch b1 2+4 and throw them right back in the corner where the lovely ice puddle catches them and do 32-34% its a fun gimmick
 

LastKarma

Under The Red Hood
Do you know what 50% is? Do I have to explain percentages and what they imply to you?



A certain word? Lol? It's not that people dislike you for misspelling words, wasn't really implying that. Just saying it doesn't help your cause when your posts are so incredibly thick with errors that it's headache inducing to read. Sorry, some people only want to read posts they don't have to sit there and translate. So it really has nothing to do at all with OCD or disorders.



I don't think anybody actually complained about the yellow, not sure where this is coming from. It's just identifiable. Go back and look, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I see "yellow" used as an adjective, not an insult.



You're right, him saying "gtfo" was a little rude. Besides that? I'm not convinced you even read his post, especially since you didn't seem to respond to any of it except those four letters. Nothing he said was inaccurate. This is a CSZ thread created specifically for CSZ's nerfs. That's the reason he named it CYBER-SUB NERF BOYS. He probably took an issue with you post's dedication to Cyrax because it just wasn't relevant to the topic. You also started by implying that he shouldn't be mad, Cyrax players should. And then, oddly enough, you proceeded to back it up with theoreticals about Cyrax changes you admit to knowing nothing about and that have nothing to do, again, with the thread topic. You compared them just to do it, there was no culminating point to the post other than "we won't know until the patch hits." Which leaves everybody wondering why you just theorycrafted Cyrax in a CSZ thread.



He wanted you out of the thread, not the forum. He has you on ignore for a reason, that's good enough from his perspective, I would think. This thread, on the other hand, is a different matter. I'm sorry you feel I haven't thought about this from your point of view, but I have. And I'm still saying you blew up on the guy for four letters and some sarcasm.



I believe you, you probably are a really nice guy. Whether or not you're enjoyable to be around is entirely subjective, but regardless I'll believe you there too. If we met in real life and played MKX and just talked shit just to do it, we'd probably have fun. I'm sorry you feel insulted. But you're the only one posting things in this thread like Cyrax combos, and tagging Cyrax players to look at them...in this thread. And then all kinds of other characters, too. I mean, if you were discussing their MU's with CSZ, that's one thing.

Let me put it to you this way: everything you posted in this entire thread could have been used to create your very own thread with those themes. Because about 2% is related to CSZ. Your posts are misplaced.

Anyway... @Harlequin969 yeah I agree, they feel like 4 individuals despite the universal strings.

And @Vigilante24 I'd have to agree with that too. CSZ doesn't feel like the worst character in the game right now, he does feel viable. Not great, but usable. That being said, I don't really know who I'd put at the bottom of any supposed tier list...I actually think NRS did a pretty good job with the patch overall.

I'm going to remain salty about a couple things, just because I can be lol, but I don't really think his changes compared to the entire patch can be considered a nerf. At least so far, anyway. @THTB put it the best, he's alright now.
No more needs to be said. You ended his career.
 

LastKarma

Under The Red Hood
Appreciate it everyone. Ill do my best. Its time to show what we've hiding while the top tiers rained down over us.
 

FrankOceansWaifu

Watch this set up.
F12 after a bomb in the corner is great for jumpers they usually fall right into the bomb after that. F43 is also good it kicks them right onto the bomb and if they block the whole thing you can almost sorta OS and do a dive kick for the really fast OH into low HTB. An NJP works a lot just gotta do it quick because of the terrible horizontal hitbox on it.
 
So glad I hung in there with him and didn't jump ship after that last patch! Being one of the few that actually hung in there and continued to main him...let me tell you people...he's back to a top tier killing machine! Stamina and damage buffs mixed in with F13 that's back means good fucking luck! I had him beast pre-patch lol after nerfs...now he's a fucking Monster!!!!
 
So glad I hung in there with him and didn't jump ship after that last patch! Being one of the few that actually hung in there and continued to main him...let me tell you people...he's back to a top tier killing machine! Stamina and damage buffs mixed in with F13 that's back means good fucking luck! I had him beast pre-patch lol after nerfs...now he's a fucking Monster!!!!
Having a great consistent longer reaching punish is great. Especially since im setting alot of raidens come out and when they do that risky OH we don't have to move up to do 111, just smackem like rick James with f13 iccceeebbboooowwwllll. Lol
 

RM Ree

Shiba Tamer
Premium Supporter
New patch favors zoning and mobility w/o run. I think CSZ is in a great place right now. You can keep the 50/50's NRS, with rare armored launchers our corner game risk vs. reward is out of control.
 

LastKarma

Under The Red Hood
Well guys i got 4th overall at TFC 2016. It was my first tournament ever, and although it wasnt as big as most. I think i made it pretty damn far for a CSZ player. I did switch characters at some points but you guys can forgive me i hope....CSZ cant beat every character lol. I hope to see some other CSZ players someday as im planning on going to NEC. My final thoughts are that CSZ is pretty much the same offline, you get what you got.
 
Well guys i got 4th overall at TFC 2016. It was my first tournament ever, and although it wasnt as big as most. I think i made it pretty damn far for a CSZ player. I did switch characters at some points but you guys can forgive me i hope....CSZ cant beat every character lol. I hope to see some other CSZ players someday as im planning on going to NEC. My final thoughts are that CSZ is pretty much the same offline, you get what you got.
srry bro you cant say 'as a csz player' when you used other characters

good shit and congrats tho
 

MK_Al

Noob
Well guys i got 4th overall at TFC 2016. It was my first tournament ever, and although it wasnt as big as most. I think i made it pretty damn far for a CSZ player. I did switch characters at some points but you guys can forgive me i hope....CSZ cant beat every character lol. I hope to see some other CSZ players someday as im planning on going to NEC. My final thoughts are that CSZ is pretty much the same offline, you get what you got.
Unfortunately I don't share your enthusiasm that CSZ can beat every character :)
However, you did a great job at TFC; your matches have been my personal highlight beside the GF!