Video/Tutorial - Sub-Zero BradyCast - Tom Brady's final review of MKX Sub-Zero

Discussion in 'Sub-Zero' started by STORMS, Jan 10, 2017.

By STORMS on Jan 10, 2017 at 2:50 PM
  1. STORMS

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    He's one of, if not the most well-known character specialist. Tom Brady has recently made another BradyCast and this time he states it's his final review of the character he specializes in; Sub-Zero. Ever since Mortal Kombat 9, Tom has devoted his resources, energy and skill into the Sub-Zero community. In fact, the Sub-Zero forums are often the largest due to this.

    In this video, Tom Brady discusses the ins and outs of "why" and his overall feelings on the character. If you can lend 30 mins to view this cast, it will be worth your time.

     
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Discussion in 'Sub-Zero' started by STORMS, Jan 10, 2017.

    1. 1man3letters
      1man3letters
      ah good stuff, love me some bradycasts, will watch this later

      cheers for posting storms
      ChoseDeath likes this.
    2. Temetias
      Temetias
      19:20 was my favorite part of the video.
      x TeeJay o and shura30 like this.
    3. Vithar
      Vithar
      I've watched a clip from Reo (in Reo's Youtube Channel) like 1-3 weeks ago where Brady is crying like a ''B*tch'' that his Character (SZ) is dragging him down and how people like Madzin are quiting MKX coz their main character - SZ is bad / low.
      Now he states that the Character is ''Very-very'' powerful.
      Hypocrisy at its finest and ofc - not character issue but a player / skill issue!
    4. Dankster Morgan
      Dankster Morgan
      To be fair though how many one characters by themselves are making top 8s? As in the one character being used with no alts, only variation switches. In the grand scheme of things, Sub not being able to make a top 8 alone doesn't seem that bad imo. I think Sub is somewhere right outside of top ten tho
      Last edited: Jan 11, 2017
    5. Wigy
      Wigy
      Less than a minute in he's already fishing for props
      WATCHD0G and snort like this.
    6. Sutter Pain
      Sutter Pain
      I don't mind Tom but when goes into broken record mode it gets really annoying and hard to watch.
    7. Wigy
      Wigy
      This review of subzero is completely objective and not driven by personal agendas. Somewhat like fox news

      :DOGE
      CrimsonShadow likes this.
    8. carrion4worm
      carrion4worm
      "Fair and Balanced"!
      Osiris likes this.
    9. Invincible Salads
      Invincible Salads
      what he says makes a lot of sense, if sub can't really use the clone, what else does he have to work with? lol
    10. Tweedy
      Tweedy
      50/50 launchers, broke jump ins, 11 frame mid, safe special, great D4, 7 frame D1 that's -3 on block, great backdash?

      Are we looking at different characters?
    11. Eddy Wang
      Eddy Wang
      Wanted to do one for Hat Trick and Ninjutsu, guess that's gonna have to wait now, need to fetch my headphones, brady likes to scream on his streams.
    12. M.D.
      M.D.
      Subzero review, fast and accurate:

      B2 is broken, broken hitbox, unreactable, unpunishable because of pushback and blockstun except for 2-3 chars.
      GM Clone coming out point blank like a parry is broken.
      Cooldown of GM clone resetting randomly making him just spill it out non stop is broken as fuck.

      The rest is ok.

      Except from stuff like:

      "He gets the ex version as a punish on clone, not the normal one.
      So he still gets out of the corner, for free."

      Meter =/= free.

      Seriously now, after all these years on the site, this GM down-playing is really insulting my mediocre intelligence.

      Please, stahp.
      Last edited: Jan 11, 2017
      Kooron Nation, JDM, Jelan and 13 others like this.
    13. shura30
      shura30
      it's you idiots playing this game wrong

      once the almighty Ice Clone is out you should call all your relatives and bow to it, slay a goat, say a prayer then walk your character right in

      because the other half page of sub's moveset in which there's hit levels, 7 framers, safe strings and specials on top of mobility really is just there because there was a template for nrs to fill
    14. Invincible Salads
      Invincible Salads
      lots of characters in this game have crazy good jump ins, 50/50's are nothing special either. And he also doesnt really get much in midscreen off his overhead.

      having good pokes is great and all.....but man cannot live on good pokes alone! :eek:

      ice shatter being safe is helpful, but not quite enough.

      its too bad he doesnt have some staggers to work with.

      (mind you this is all not taking into account the ice clone)
      jackempty0, champdee and Skylight1 like this.
    15. Wigy
      Wigy
      Theres a whole lot of focusing on what he doesnt have and completely ignoring what he does going on with the sub community.
    16. ismael4790
      ismael4790
      Sub has his flaws, but general patch changes (specially armor launchers removal) benefited GM overrall, I see Tom a bit more pesimistic than I expected in this video. Of course Sub has bad matchups (every character should have some) but he also has a large amount of good ones, even some where he rapes the opponent.

      Also, one shouldn't expect a character with such a great tool as the ice clone, that basically nullifies the gameplan of many characters, to be also as competent as others in all the rest of departments. GMSub design invariably leads to have some very good matchups and some very bad ones, because it revolves around one very strong tool that is iceclone. If he had better pressure, better staggers, etc, he SHOULD get weakened iceclone and setplay because otherwise he would be a monster.

      I would feel fortunate if my characters had ended up in the place Gm Sub is, honestly.
      Last edited: Jan 11, 2017
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    17. Wigy
      Wigy
      My point is that the sub community downplays how good his tools are outside the clone. Make it seem like hes like moveless.

      I have no clue how you can say hes not top 10.

      Does any character have as many matchups that are arguably 7-3?
      Kooron Nation, Gofer_MK and The_Tile like this.
    18. CrimsonShadow
    19. Skylight1
      Skylight1
      Drunken Don lemon with "honest news" says hello!
      Son ov Timett likes this.
    20. rubmytaco
      rubmytaco
      I actually agree with Brady on this one.. to an extent. Well I guess I agree with F0xy most lol. Sub zero's problem is indeed that GM cripples his other variations. I just really wish they would make the base character better and nerfed that damn clone.
      Eldriken, ShArp, M.D. and 1 other person like this.
    21. st9rm
    22. Parasurama
      Parasurama
      What exactly does he lack? He has good advancing mids, 50/50's ( one option being unsafe), almost full screen slide, combo starting projectiles, very good jump ins, safe specials that can be cancelled into, good pokes, great back dash.

      Does he need a teleport or a clone in every variation?
      Kooron Nation likes this.
    23. The_Tile
      The_Tile
      Amen to this post.
    24. Dankster Morgan
      Dankster Morgan
      How does Sub-Zero's matchup chart compare to the characters he is supposedly as good as? He loses like 8-10 matchups, something tells me these other "top 5" and "top 10" characters don't lose that many. I'm not trying to downplay, Sub is really dumb but I'm trying to be realistic.
    25. ChuckFiasco
      ChuckFiasco
      Its just better when Tom is around. Amirite?
      Gofer_MK likes this.

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