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Youphemism

Youphemism

Gunslinger since pre patch (sh/out to The Farmer)
Seeing as how Injustice and Batgirl herself have been out for over a year now, we've seen her win EVO and her matchups have been played countless times, I had the idea that maybe I could gather the opinions of all the Batgirl mains in the community on her matchups and put it into one big up-to-date thread. Below are the opinions of most of the Batgirl mains on her matchups as of now. The last chart is the matchup numbers averaged from all the charts put together, to get a relatively accurate overall opinion on the matchups and Batgirl.

Feel free to discuss :)
Aquaman 4-6
Ares 6-4
Bane 5-5
Batgirl 5-5
Batman 5-5
Black Adam 6-4
Catwoman 5-5
Cyborg 6-4
Deathstroke 6-4
Doomsday 4-6
Flash 5-5
Green Arrow 6-4
Green Lantern 6-4
Harley Quinn 5-5
Hawkgirl 6-4
The Joker 6-4
Killer Frost 5-5
Lex Luthor 6-4
Lobo 6-4
Martian Manhunter 5-5
Nightwing 5-5
Raven 6-4
Scorpion 6-4
Shazam 5-5
Sinestro 5-5
Solomon Grundy 5-5
Superman 5-5
Wonder Woman 5-5
Zatanna 6-4
Zod 5-5

Winning MUs: 13
Losing MUs: 2
Even MUs: 15

Aquaman 4-6
Ares 6-4
Bane 5-5
Batgirl 5-5
Batman 4-6
Black Adam 5-5
Catwoman 5-5
Cyborg 6-4
Deathstroke 6-4
Doomsday 4-6
Flash 5-5
Green Arrow 6-4
Green Lantern 6-4
Harley Quinn 5-5
Hawkgirl 6-4
The Joker 6-4
Killer Frost 5-5
Lex Luthor 5-5
Lobo 6-4
Martian Manhunter 5-5
Nightwing 5-5
Raven 6-4
Scorpion 6-4
Shazam 5-5
Sinestro 5-5
Solomon Grundy 5-5
Superman 5-5
Wonder Woman 5-5
Zatanna 6-4
Zod 5-5

Winning MUs: 11
Losing MUs: 3
Even MUs: 16

Aquaman 5-5
Ares 6-4
Bane 5-5
Batgirl 5-5
Batman 5-5
Black Adam 6-4
Catwoman 5-5
Cyborg 6-4
Deathstroke 5-5
Doomsday 4-6
Flash 5-5
Green Arrow 6-4
Green Lantern 6-4
Harley Quinn 5-5
Hawkgirl 6-4
The Joker 6-4
Killer Frost 5-5
Lex Luthor 6-4
Lobo 6-4
Martian Manhunter 5-5
Nightwing 5-5
Raven 6-4
Scorpion 6-4
Shazam 5-5
Sinestro 5-5
Solomon Grundy 5-5
Superman 5-5
Wonder Woman 5-5
Zatanna 6-4
Zod 6-4

Winning MUs: 13
Losing MUs: 1
Even MUs: 16

Aquaman 5-5
Ares 6-4
Bane 5-5
Batgirl 5-5
Batman 5-5
Black Adam 6-4
Catwoman 5-5
Cyborg 6-4
Deathstroke 6-4
Doomsday 5-5
Flash 5-5
Green Arrow 6-4
Green Lantern 6-4
Harley Quinn 5-5
Hawkgirl 6-4
The Joker 6-4
Killer Frost 5-5
Lex Luthor 6-4
Lobo 6-4
Martian Manhunter 5-5
Nightwing 5-5
Raven 6-4
Scorpion 6-4
Shazam 5-5
Sinestro 5-5
Solomon Grundy 5-5
Superman 5-5
Wonder Woman 5-5
Zatanna 6-4
Zod 5-5

Winning MUs: 13
Losing MUs: 0
Even MUs: 17

Aquaman 4-6
Ares 6-4
Bane 5-5
Batgirl 5-5
Batman 5-5
Black Adam 6-4
Catwoman 5-5
Cyborg 6-4
Deathstroke 5-5
Doomsday 5-5
Flash 5-5
Green Arrow 6-4
Green Lantern 5-5
Harley Quinn 5-5
Hawkgirl 6-4
The Joker 6-4
Killer Frost 5-5
Lex Luthor 6-4
Lobo 6-4
Martian Manhunter 4-6
Nightwing 5-5
Raven 6-4
Scorpion 6-4
Shazam 5-5
Sinestro 5-5
Solomon Grundy 5-5
Superman 5-5
Wonder Woman 5-5
Zatanna 6-4
Zod 5-5

Winning: 11
Losing: 2
Even: 16

Aquaman: 4-6
Ares: 6-4
Bane: 5-5
Batman: 5-5
Black Adam: 6-4
Catwoman: 6-4
Cyborg: 6-4
Deathstroke: 6-4
Doomsday: 5-5
Flash: 5-5
Green Arrow: 6-4
Green Lantern: 6-4
Harley Quinn: 6-4
Hawkgirl: 6-4
Joker: 6-4
Killer Frost: 5-5
Lex Luthor: 6-4
Lobo: 6-4
Martian Manhunter: 4-6
Nightwing: 5-5
Raven: 6-4
Scorpion: 6-4
Shazam: 6-4
Sinestro: 5-5
Solomon Grundy: 5-5
Superman: 5-5
Wonder Woman: 5-5
Zatanna: 6-4
Zod: 5-5

Winning: 16
Losing: 2
Even: 11

Aquaman: 4-6
Ares: 6-4
Bane: 5-5
Batman: 4-6
Black Adam: 5-5
Catwoman: 5-5
Cyborg: 5-5
Deathstroke: 6-4
Doomsday: 5-5
Flash: 5-5
Green Arrow: 5-5
Green Lantern: 5-5
Harley Quinn: 6-4
Hawkgirl: 6-4
Joker: 6-4
Killer Frost: 5-5
Lex Luthor: 5-5
Lobo: 6-4
Martian Manhunter: 4-6
Nightwing: 5-5
Raven: 6-4
Scorpion: 6-4
Shazam: 6-4
Sinestro: 5-5
Solomon Grundy: 6-4
Superman: 5-5
Wonder Woman: 5-5
Zatanna: 5-5
Zod: 5-5

Winning: 10
Losing: 3
Even: 16

Aquaman: 4-6
Ares: 6-4
Bane: 5-5
Batgirl: 5-5 (possible 10-0)
Batman: 4-6
Black Adam: 5-5
Catwoman: 5-5
Cyborg: 6-4
Deathstroke: 5-5
Doomsday: 5-5
Flash: 5-5
Green Arrow: 5-5
Green Lantern: 5-5
Harley Quinn: 6-4
Hawkgirl: 6-4
Joker: 6-4
Killer Frost: 5-5
Lex Luthor: 5-5
Lobo: 5-5
Martian Manhunter: 5-5
Nightwing: 5-5
Raven: 6-4
Scorpion: 6-4
Shazam: 5-5
Sinestro: 5-5
Solomon Grundy: 6-4
Superman: 5-5
Wonder Woman: 5-5
Zatanna: 6-4
Zod: 6-4

Winning: 10
Losing: 2
Even: 18

Averaged MU chart:
Aquaman: 4-6 (4.25-5.75)
Ares: 6-4 (undisputed)
Bane: 5-5 (undisputed)
Batgirl: 5-5 (surprisingly undisputed)
Batman: 5-5 (4.625-5.375)
Black Adam: 6-4 (5.625-4.375)
Catwoman: 5-5 (5.125-4.875)
Cyborg: 6-4 (5.875-4.125)
Deathstroke: 6-4 (5.625-4.375)
Doomsday: 5-5 (4.625-5.375)
Flash: 5-5 (undisputed)
Green Arrow: 6-4 (5.625-4.375)
Green Lantern: 6-4 (5.625-4.375)
Harley Quinn: 5-5 (5.375-4.625)
Hawkgirl: 6-4 (undisputed)
The Joker: 6-4 (undisputed)
Killer Frost: 5-5 (undisputed)
Lex Luthor: 6-4 (5.625-4.375)
Lobo: 6-4 (5.875-4.125)
Martian Manhunter: 5-5 (4.625-5.375)
Nightwing: 5-5 (undisputed)
Raven: 6-4 (undisputed)
Scorpion: 6-4 (undisputed)
Shazam: 5-5 (5.25-4.75)
Sinestro: 5-5 (undisputed)
Solomon Grundy: 5-5 (5.25-4.75)
Superman: 5-5 (undisputed)
Wonder Woman: 5-5 (undisputed)
Zatanna: 6-4 (5.875-4.125)
Zod: 5-5 (5.25-4.75)

Winning: 13
Losing: 1
Even: 16


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Yoaksssss said:
Another mu that has the their character beating Lobo. *sigh*
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You think she doesn't beat lobo? Risk reward is always in her favour, she doesn't have to worry about his oki game as much as everyone else does, she out damages him when vortex is taken into account. She can actually play footsies in this MU since her b1 outranges lobo's d1. In general she just has a much easier time and things are usually in her favour.

I promise I didn't just pull that number out of my arse, but if you wanted to tell me why it should be otherwise I'd be happy to hear it :)
 
Yoaks

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Pan1cMode said:
You think she doesn't beat lobo? Risk reward is always in her favour, she doesn't have to worry about his oki game as much as everyone else does, she out damages him when vortex is taken into account. She can actually play footsies in this MU since her b1 outranges lobo's d1. In general she just has a much easier time and things are usually in her favour.

I promise I didn't just pull that number out of my arse, but if you wanted to tell me why it should be otherwise I'd be happy to hear it :)
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s3 outranges everything she has. If she wakeups I can just bait it and punish. Waking up with Cartwheel can be baited by backdashing or nj1. His d1 is only good for poking or punishing dash ins. She is always taking a risk but so is Lobo. She only out damages him if I guess wrong. Like everyone else. IMO there isn't anything she has besides vortex that scares me.
 
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Yoaksssss said:
s3 outranges everything she has. If she wakeups I can just bait it and punish. Waking up with Cartwheel can be baited by backdashing or nj1. His d1 is only good for poking or punishing dash ins. She is always taking a risk but so is Lobo. She only out damages him if I guess wrong. Like everyone else. IMO there isn't anything she has besides vortex that scares me.
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You can't just randomly s3 though because she can wait just outside and punish. And she has more wakeups than cartwheel. Have you played any good BGs offline before? Not doubting you, just saying it's not hard for her at all. It's much easier than BM who is listed as a 5-5 or MMH who is also a 5-5. And definitely easier than DD who is listed as a 5-5.

It's funny, in that massive MU thread everyone complained about how the BG players downplayed all her MUs, but truth be told no one wants to admit that she just doesn't beat anyone that badly.

The_Furax said:
Ok, 5-5 against Frost, ok... That's ok!
Yeah, that's it!
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For a while KF players argued it was in their favour. As a person who uses both, it's fairly even.
 
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Yoaksssss said:
s3 outranges everything she has. If she wakeups I can just bait it and punish. Waking up with Cartwheel can be baited by backdashing or nj1. His d1 is only good for poking or punishing dash ins. She is always taking a risk but so is Lobo. She only out damages him if I guess wrong. Like everyone else. IMO there isn't anything she has besides vortex that scares me.
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Standing 3 can be whiff punished easily by B1 into the vortex. Zoning gives Lobo some problems since Bola is so plus that Lobo doesn't get to check with pump shot. Yes, Lobo's damage is ridiculous, but Batgirl's comeback factor with the vortex makes things more manageable. If your trying to bait her wake-up by backdashing or neutral j1, then it has done it's job as a wake up, and she can just get up normally.
 
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Pan1cMode said:
You can't just randomly s3 though because she can wait just outside and punish. And she has more wakeups than cartwheel. Have you played any good BGs offline before? Not doubting you, just saying it's not hard for her at all. It's much easier than BM who is listed as a 5-5 or MMH who is also a 5-5. And definitely easier than DD who is listed as a 5-5.

It's funny, in that massive MU thread everyone complained about how the BG players downplayed all her MUs, but truth be told no one wants to admit that she just doesn't beat anyone that badly.


For a while KF players argued it was in there favour. As a person who uses both, it's fairly even.
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I don't play offline unless I go to GGA. Yes I do know she has more wakeups than Cartwheel. But there all punishable. If you wait outside s3 range I could just throw out mb Hook Charge and get plus frames or Low Hook. You make one wrong guess your eating 40+ or 50+ pending on certain stages or a combo starter. Where if I guess wrong mid-screen I still have a chance to get out. But if im in the corner gg's to Lobo.
 
Yoaks

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RM Truth said:
Standing 3 can be whiff punished easily by B1 into the vortex. Zoning gives Lobo some problems since Bola is so plus that Lobo doesn't get to check with pump shot. Yes, Lobo's damage is ridiculous, but Batgirl's comeback factor with the vortex makes things more manageable. If your trying to bait her wake-up by backdashing or neutral j1, then it has done it's job as a wake up, and she can just get up normally.
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Than if you don't wakeup than I can start going for Toss on your wakeup. Everything in this mu is based on reads and guesses. If she guesses wrong I get my 40 - 50%. Where she doesnt, unless I'm in the corner.
 
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Dudley Dowork

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Youphemism said:
He didn't want to do it, but no doubt this is the only thing most people were probably actually looking for in this thread...which is saddening and kind of unfair :|
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It is unfair and please try not to take my post as anything but lighthearted. I alt batgirl and love hearing the opinions of other batgirl players whether they are "unknown" or not.

Edit: plus I pretty much steal all the batgirl tech you and pan1c post, so I meant no disrespect.
 
Youphemism

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Dudley Dowork said:
It is unfair and please try not to take my post as anything but lighthearted. I alt batgirl and love hearing the opinions of other batgirl players whether they are "unknown" or not.

Edit: plus I pretty much steal all the batgirl tech you and pan1c post, so I meant no disrespect.
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I know that's not what you meant, I was just meaning in general :) and thanks! Sorry if it seemed like I was singling you out I didn't mean to...
 
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Yoaksssss said:
I don't play offline unless I go to GGA. Yes I do know she has more wakeups than Cartwheel. But there all punishable. If you wait outside s3 range I could just throw out mb Hook Charge and get plus frames or Low Hook. You make one wrong guess your eating 40+ or 50+ pending on certain stages or a combo starter. Where if I guess wrong mid-screen I still have a chance to get out. But if im in the corner gg's to Lobo.
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You don't get anything off your +frames except a d1 check, and you've wasted meter for it. Your overhead is suuuuuper slow and if you go for another hook charge you get a knockdown which leads to basically nothing. Also, I think you underestimate BG's damage even without vortex. With an interactable bounce it's like 47%, with out interactables it's 42%. On some stages (asylum, Wayne manor, metropolis, insurgency, watch tower, themyscira, HOJ, Gotham, FoS, batcave) she actually gets unavoidable resets and combos into interactable OTGs which do 50%+. Not to mention if you guess wrong once that's 60%+, and her corner damage.

He also can't zone her because bolas are too + to check with pump shot and without trait and meter he's no threat (whereas BG doesn't need meter to be threatening).
 
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