General/Other Are Smoke players the biggest downplayers in the community?

Discussion in 'Smoke' started by General M2Dave, Sep 30, 2012.


Are Smoke players the biggest downplayers in the community?

  1. Yes, they are.

  2. No, they are not.

  3. Kitana players are.

  1. General M2Dave

    First of all, this thread has nothing to do with me losing twice to Wafflez at Season's Beatings. I was going to make this thread anyway. But I did not have any time last week.

    With that being said, I would like to know whether this community is as sick and as tired as I am about Smoke players constantly down playing their character. I was talking to FrothyOmen and RiBBz22 this weekend on and off stream about Smoke's match ups. The following are a few examples of them down playing Smoke's match ups to make themselves look better when they lose.

    Smoke vs. Freddy = 6:4

    Smoke vs. Jax = 3:7

    Smoke vs. Kung Lao = 3:7

    The following is what I believe about the Freddy vs. Smoke match up. I consulted CD Jr. for the Jax vs. Smoke match up and Perfect Legend for the Kung Lao vs. Smoke match up.

    Smoke vs. Freddy = 8:2

    Smoke vs. Jax = 5:5

    Smoke vs. Kung Lao = 5:5

    With these differences in mind, I have some questions for this community. What should happen to these Smoke for lying and deceiving the community? Should they be made to apologize? Kitana players are also infamous for lying about match ups. But have Smoke players surpassed Kitana players in the beautiful art of down playing their respective character? Share your opinions in this thread and make sure to vote.
  2. Chongo

    Chongo Dead Kings Rise

    This is getting old. Just saying.
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  3. Espio

    Espio Revolution Radio
    Lead Moderator

    Why would Kung Lao break even with Smoke? 5-5 is downplaying Kung Lao....
  4. How do Kit players downplay her? If I'm not mistaken, 16 Bit's last chart states that she has only 4 bad MUs, which seems pretty accurate, even a little optimistic.

    And I don't think Freddy vs Smoke is 2:8. There are very few MUs that bad in the game. Unless you're telling me that Freddy vs Smoke is as bad as Sheeva vs Mileena, 2:8 is a little too much.

    I don't know about Jax, but I can't see Smoke vs Lao being even.
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  5. DJ L Toro

    DJ L Toro Noob

    Oh jesus, not again.
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  6. FrothyOmen

    Premium Supporter

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  7. Eddy Wang

    Eddy Wang Skarlet scientist

    note, this is not m2dave someone is using his account.
    If it was him the thread tittle would be: "Are Smoke Fools the biggest downplayers in the community?":p
  8. Sasarix

    Sasarix "Heaven Will Fall!"

    lol he started off with "This has nothing to do with me losing twice to Wafflez" so you know it has everything to do with him losing to Wafflez twice lol.
  9. FrothyOmen

    Premium Supporter

    "LBSH, The only reason Wafflez made it as far in the bracket as he did is because he had to play me twice" - m2dave

    "So you're saying you're free on the bracket?" - FrothyOmen

    "..." - m2dave
  10. DragonPick

    DragonPick I don't play Runescape

    Don't be mad because you don't have fundamentals, Frothy
  11. General M2Dave

    Perfect Legends says 5:5 because of resets and I believe it. Cyrax's resets are easier to do, but landing a smoke bomb is easier than landing a net. Wafflez landed the reset on me 90% of the time.
  12. Lumpymoomilk

    Lumpymoomilk Online Punching Bag

    I'm not sure if this is serious, but have you ever considered trying to rushdown opponents with Freddy as well real or pretend m2dave. He certainly doesn't seem that bad at rushdown either.
  13. FrothyOmen

    Premium Supporter

    This is sig-worthy. LOL
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  14. rev0lver

    rev0lver Come On Die Young
    Premium Supporter

    Kitana players are obviously the biggest downplayers. LBSH, her only two bad matchups (Freddy+Kenshi) are 4-6. For some reason people think matchups like Scorpion and Kano are only 6-4 too, when in reality they're 7-3's. At worst she's #6 or 7
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  15. General M2Dave

    Freddy has good mix ups but bad rush down. He has very, very few strings that are 0 on block or better. The only people who think Freddy can rush down are DarkNataS and EMP Scar and both are fools who have not placed well and never will with Freddy.
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  16. Espio

    Espio Revolution Radio
    Lead Moderator

    Resets don't seem like enough to make it 5-5 just based off the tournament and other footage I see everytime Smoke v.s. Kung Lao comes into play.

    It looks extremely difficult for even top Smoke mains, like Smoke can't keep Lao off of him at all.

    Again, I'm not an expert on the match up, just some casual observations.
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  17. Zoidberg747

    Zoidberg747 They see me teleportin', they hatin'

    Oh here we go again.
  18. PPJ

    PPJ ()
    NetherRealm Studios

    to be fair, I can probably agree with freddy vs. smoke being worse than 4-6, but the other two are nonsense :p

    ABACABB End Of Humanity

    Man , they will tell you that the reason why they have not placed well is because they dont travel much to the tournaments :p
    As for rushdown freddy , I must agree , it will never work well.
  20. cR WoundCowboy

    cR WoundCowboy WoundCowbae <3

    Dude... Freddy has like what, 2 or 3 bad mus? I am sure you can pick someone up to handle these matches. Complain when you have 10+ bad mu's, not when your character blows up a good chunk of the cast.
  21. Chongo

    Chongo Dead Kings Rise

    By the way he complains, you'd think he plays Jade.
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  22. Espio

    Espio Revolution Radio
    Lead Moderator

    OMG thank you <3.
  23. Zoidberg747

    Zoidberg747 They see me teleportin', they hatin'

    I love how you complain when you have like 20-25 good matchups. As a Baraka player I have 2. I have a right to complain every now and then, you sure as hell dont.

    Just pick someone up for Smoke, Jesus. Ive heard Kenshi is a good pick.
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  24. schnitzel_on_fire

    schnitzel_on_fire Maining the Roster

  25. REO

    REO Undead
    Premium Supporter

    Is m2dave the biggest bitch and crybaby in the community? God, even Kano players have more balls than this man. Also please do stream viewers every where a favor and never attempt to play Jax again. Never before have I seen views drop like that in my life.

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