God Confirm
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No worries dude, just looking for an explanation of the perspective =) I understand they are going to change in future, was simply curious why it was at 5-5 right now though is all
No worries dude, just looking for an explanation of the perspective =) I understand they are going to change in future, was simply curious why it was at 5-5 right now though is all
Sooo... the squeaky wheel does eventually get the grease. Thanks for pandering to him, maybe now we can get actually back on topic rather than going round in circles
...that I should not have read that and thought that you would be able to back that statement up. I mistook your inquiry as a match up challenge.
It looks like we have a difference in philosophy with how we run this project. I feel like this should be handled as more of a two-way street. Both sides should be able to back up their statements before challenging the other. It shouldn't just be us handling this project as a thesis defense. I feel like we earned that on merit of just taking the time to put all of this together. Don't get me wrong, I very much appreciate the effort that you put into scrutinizing the match ups that we compiled. I'm glad that there are many members of the community that want to ensure that this project is as accurate as can be. At the same time, I want to assure you that these match ups have been looked into already.
first time i casually ask about a flash cold match up being 5-5 i get no response
LOL don't lie.Somewhere near the end of all this, about an hour ago, I get told for the very first time, by Bacon that hes gonna do a write up soon, and he's not even the damn rep for either of the characters in question. And yet still that's all I wanted, a bit of insight into the match up numbers you guys are stating. And he got a friendly response from me, it's as easy at that. Not ONCE before this point have you said you would answer this question, every response has been "tell us why we're wrong and we'll run it back to them so they can argue against it". Feel free to screenshot me and prove me wrong.
Well that's nice to hear but you've somehow completely misunderstood everything I said, because at no point did I weigh in at all on the match up or provide any stance, I simply asked a question, and the only information I provided was links to other people's statements. But feel free to relay whatever you want, because at this point I want to see it through and see exactly what it takes to actually get an answer to a simple straightforward question about your tier list: why do you guys think this match up is as such?
LOL. My dude, that is because of you. All this meta-discussion about how terrible this thread is revolves around you and your lack of patience.
Lmao this response is hilarious!!!!! Good shit my dudeHere is a few sources of people having the opinion on this match up. What I'm gonna be able to do for you right now on mobile is firstly pointing out that even Cold players in this thread are saying its wrong. I'll also give you a couple of high level sources on top of that
HappyPow saying Cold is one of Flash's only 3-7's
https://testyourmight.com/threads/flash-facts-matchup-discussion.64675/#post-2304496
Sonic showing how one sided this match up is vs HoneyBee's flash (from a week ago)
And here's a screenshot of Espio and TJ, two well respected players on here and both contributors to this very tier list, also questioning the logic of these numbers, to put it gently, from the other week when I mentioned on discord I couldn't even get an answer to why
Is that enough to get you to stop making excuses and just you know, explain your statements, or do I literally have to take a consensus?
To restate, again, for the thousandth time, I'm not saying you're wrong - simply asking for an explanation, it's possible you guys are entirely correct and that I might learn something new about their MU. This post just that PROOF you demanded that this is a commonly held opinion, which really is besides the point. It's fine to disagree. I was just curious why. The fact that I had to go to this length just to justify asking an explanation for a match up at all shows how trash this shit is lmao
Ok so there was an honesty mistake regarding this number. The 5-5 was simply a place holder number that was added after the cold nerfs in order to reflect the matchup becoming easier for flash. The new number will most likely be 6-4 cold and here is a write up from one of our flash represenitaves
thanks dude, that... actually makes a lot of sense.
I'm not sure about this. I played cold alot pre-nerf and flash players found ways around his puddle, it never "shut them down" and they would call it 5-5. But, thanks for all that info, it does help. I'll relay it to the cold/flash reps for discussion
Some reps aren't on tym, some aren't on twitter. Everyone lives in different time zones so not all of us are present at the same time but a good majority of us is usually there, sometimes backtracking needs to be done in multiple channels and EVEN then we have to confirm the validity of the reps statements.
That's not true at all. We can't force reps to sign up here/post, this isn't a business, and none of the reps who are posting on this thread are qualified to talk about cold/flash.
Personally I fully get that they don't come on here and understand having to wait. What I find weird is that people can't request information on a match up from people giving the numbers without needing to give a write up of their own. especially when you'd think the point of having "rep" is that they only have to answer questions about their own character and not the entire game. The other wierd thing is lying about it and trying to pretend that you've run all this stuff to the character reps when you didn't. It's really bizarre
That may be the reality, and nothing can be done outside of "forcing" people to make a TYM account. But it does effect discourse, whether you like it or not, particularly if TYM is supposed to be the main way for people outside the reps to give their input.
We try to be as accurate and efficient as we can by relaying the information for that very reason. Some people just don't want to be on TYM and they can't be blamed for it. We even pulled reps from people who no longer even bother checking this very website and they do provide input surprisingly.
It certainly does help to get a response when someone posts a concrete evaluation of the MU, it's something the reps can take seriously rather than saying "such and such thinks your MU number is wrong, can you please write up your thought process"
2 questions, Why would you tell them I said it was wrong at all when I said a thousand times that I dont disagree and that it's probably right and that I wouldn't know if it was right or wrong, I'm just interested in your reasoning for the match up numbers so I can get some insight into a different perspective? And second question If they can't do that why even contribute to a tier list? Like literally what's the point? Just evaporates credibility and makes it seem like the numbers were just pulled out of a hat, isn't the purpose of this list for you to share your opinion? I don't get it.
Of course no one would say this person is saying such and such about the MU but they are wrong. I'm of course referring to the inner dialogue people may have.
fair enough