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if memory serves me well, normal push was -8, MB was -2, and in trait normal push was -4 and MB was still -2 (don't get hopes up too much as this is off memory)

thanks bro :)

Aiming to have something up later on tonight, going to finish work and get straight on it

Only just saw this thread, had no idea so many of you were following our experience yesterday. We really appreciate the support and hope you all enjoy what content is yet to come! PS: This game is sick and you should all be excited

There are a lot of characters I wanna try out, Scarecrow is #1 for me right now, but I loved beetle in beta, green arrow was my favorite in Injustice 1 so looking forward to playing him again, and Grodd still :)

Had no idea you guys were bringing this back! Awesome stuff, will listen tonight :)

Not seen Flet play since Season 3, happy to see he's still doing well!

This is cool, how often would you say you can time it perfectly without them being able to armour/jump? consistency is my main concern with this considering the net height has to be precise.

Can't you end the second combo in monkey flips for a 3rd bar OTG into guaranteed chip for a 100% 3 bar?

I know the idea for this has been floating around for a while but this is the first time I've seen it refined like this to cover loads of escape options. Kudos!

That's amazing. Dragon's breath was already one of the scariest characters in the corner and now he has a 90% death reset? :eek:

delayed b2 off a JIP for the reset, at least I think that's his b2?

This is super interesting, am I right in thinking this is only possible now Bo's backdash is faster? Also, if you delay the mid from the jump in, there's a gap there right? But if you think the opponent is going to try pressing buttons can't you just do something faster into EX bump and kill...

I really like the use of this after B4, question is when timed like that what wakeup options does it cover? Last thing you want is for them to max delay wakeup and just full combo you etc. Can't test it myself right now because at work :(

And i'm not trying to make you look bad either, I wouldn't judge a community opinion based on stream chat anyway, Ketchup and I have an awesome twitch chat 99% of the time but it's not the same discussing things there as actually doing it on a forum. We've both probably missed the point here, lol.

It's not your opinions that I have a problem with, it's how you portray them. I'm not labelling you as disrespectful, but there is literally a 12 minute rant in this exact video where you are slamming Cyrax players, and slamming things that you know I have said with no actual vs gameplay to...

Just heard the comment at 22 minutes, you midunderstood dude. You didn't come in and say "hey guys, here is a weakness to f3 and here are alternatives using f13", you came in saying "f3 is bad and if you use it you're playing the character wrong and I see Cyrax players using it and they don't...

This is a really neat corner set up, just tested every option and when you time the b3d4 right yes, the only way out is to wakeup (provided the wakeup moves you out of the bomb radius) or to block the HTB, and yeah this one is an instant overhead low. As for the long rant though, I really don't...

It's a diverse but really cool community, when you have the tools that Cyrax has everyone is inevitably going to have very different styles of play and opinions on which are optimal etc. So long as it's being discussed everybody wins :)

I don't want to seem like I'm bursting your bubble, but the way you demonstrated the f3 meaty setup is wrong, and is not how it's actually used. It's only supposed to be used off a bomb, short bomb, far bomb double bomb setup, and you use the f3 on a read of a delayed wakeup or wakeup tech...