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-0 depth to most characters -weak combo potential leading to less creativity -fatal blows not being insta-death on block/whiff and recovering in both of those scenarios and costing 0 resources, why you can press 2 buttons to get armor during any random situation on reaction/prediction/because...

that variations sucks for 1 important reason, you trade high combos for potential frost bomb setup, and overall you won't get your value off of it enough compared to higher combos damage-wise

I think some self-reflection might have very positive effects on you, you seem to be way over your head with "best frost" and "not being delusional" but at the same time you're saying that she's not even a mid-tier post-patch, feels like you just downplay her for the sake of it and without...

she's not the only one, frost can do same thing with frostbomb but yeah, this is pretty cheap on interactible stages

i found a combo that uses meterless microburts in the corner to extend, with second hit whiffing but it's pretty much useless lol

well, that's one way to expose yourself and destroy any hopes of legitimacy of any nerfs/buffs threads you created before, good job

Definitely looks like 9-10 frames

not gonna lie this was pretty boring

didn't you already create that thread before?

That move is stupid, yes, however there are key points where you can contest and they aren't in Lui's favor: f43 lowfireball EX, second hit of the fireball is duckable and you get full combo punish on him whenever he does that f43 full string into + frames has a huge gap that is interruptable...

let's be honest though the only important one here is b22 being flawless blockable on the second hit, 1,3 string you can just end in a spin to blow up FB attempt until they respect it and allow you to use continuations (not that they are particularly insane, although i like to use +frames a...

you have 2 of those... kind of :DOGE

pretty sure you can do deep jump kick into 13-spin for more damage and still very reliable but yeah i use this starter for KB corner all the time for b22

i think it's bugged and has less range than it should so you can get out of the range pretty easily sometimes, the most stable setup is to jump over them and do the command while in the air i think

not that i look at it again i don't think it's perfect, body height looks just fine to be able to do S4 into special for potentially more damage but scaling off of that KB is so bad that it won't have that much difference tbh

i think you can do 13~drill as an ender instead of D2 for more damage, but ye she's not geras

i wouldn't call them useless, b2212 midscreen from max range into FB is probably her best route from long range punishes on that string, drill combos are very strong albeit hard to unlock and D2 universally gives her great damage on both midscreen and corner but yea she's not jacqui or geras

thanks, and yeah, that would be great, you can technically get it somewhat easy this time too if you confirm every long range b22 into drill EX but it's a hassle to really react to 3 different inputs for it in accordance to range/block/hit

Made another vid on some of the Frost combo optimizations(first one got buried in the combo thread), this one is mostly on KB combos + AA conversions, enjoy!

Sure, but you're still restricting their movement just by having that move. What do you mean about corner jump outs?