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Most of that guide was pre-patch before Cryo got those buffs to f4,2,1+3 among others, js.

b1,2 is gdlk, immediately don't respect a Sub player as much if they don't use it a lot.

I play pretty much 100% bulldog rushdown with Cryo Sub and most of the time they're stuck in the corner about 90% of the match, dying hard :) but then again I rely heavily on good reads and knowing the best punishes at the best ranges. Sub has REALLY good buttons and punishes, and a ton of them...

This. 100% a momentum character. Cryo Sub always had that burst damage (albeit more respectable) but it's so much easier to open then up and convert into from almost everything post-patch that he's just a lot more threatening. Being able to confirm 30-40% damage off of 8f 1,1,1, having the...

Lol y u so mad There are going to be tons of new Sub-Zero players because he's now much easier to play and win with in all variations. As in, people who never played him before who only play him now because they think he's the next Predator/Tanya/Lao/Quan. Soooooo ease off that rock fuccboi

Nothing but good things for Cryo from the patch. Yeah, you have to extend the combos a bit, but the potential damage is higher and it's MUCH easier to consistently hit 40%+ off damn near anything now

Mmmm his mixup and dmg potential got even better, I love itttt Gonna be so many Cryo dickriders soon

Soooo glad I stuck with Cryo lol. It will be a day of reckoning

I can agree with that. Tom does have a tendency to complain loudly and annoyingly about a lot of things, but he's completely right most of the time. Definitely a lot of haters for Sub Zero, people act like he's super broke and easy to use when you have to think about every single move you make...

I don't see how the OP is a joke considering most of what he's saying is true.

Called this on day 1 with Predator after only a couple hours of labwork. He simply does everything Sub Zero does but better, and I play all three of Sub's variations almost exclusively. I think he's a bit better in general in MKX than people give him credit for, but he's hurting pretty bad...

Using Cryo without the f+4,2,1+3 to finish combos is retarded. Killer reads, dat damage and restand into neutral IS Cryo.

Lol NRS. It shouldn't be that fucking hard to make sure broke shit like this doesn't exist. I'm sure a few patches later he'll be fine until we release broken Rain, broken Fujin and broken Xenomorph lol

Just my own random musings from watching a ton of tournament matches/streams and my own play online. Too early for Predator, but he's looking easy top 10 IMO *characters I feel are slept on S Kung Lao Tanya D'Vorah Raiden Cassie Cage A+ Erron Black Sonya Blade Kung Jin Jax Briggs Shinnok...

Idk about Sub being ahead of Scorpion and KJ, but pretty good :)

2,1,2, njp works everywhere, timing is just tight

The guy I quoted specifically used slide as an option. Context, doofus. And get at me on PSN if you think you're dope, ItzStrizzMatik instead of popping off like a moron... scrub.

My bad, 9f. Either way he's full of shit if he claims to react to it up close

You can react to a 6f slide? Yeah no

General Stuff: Fix b+3,3/f+3,3 so it either hits midscreen vs everyone or corner only Cryo: Fix the hitbox on EX Hammer so it hits more consistently vs. jump-ins Make Air Hammer actually useful (safe on block?) Gain more meter on f+4,2,1+3 on hit Less -frames after blocked Ice Hammer GM Fix...