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I keep forgetting to test this and I'm not home atm, but I'm pretty sure Shao Kahn's spear beats Scud Shot.

Maybe for D3/4's (assuming they are the sort that makes the character's hurtbox disappear like Erron's D4), but most other lows have large enough vertical hitboxes that they will anti-air them. Moreover, shorthops are a rather low-reward /high-risk counter for low pokes considering that if it...

Why are short hops a thing? It seems like a really shallow mechanic that doesn't bring much to the meta.

If you press all three 2's as fast as you can (before the first hit finishes) and you don't press 2 any more than three times, canceling the move becomes very very simple.

scales a bit but the wall carry is nice edit: in the corner 21212 BF4 D3U2 B2U4 DB1B is probably the most advantageous way to set up acid, great find Dave. edit2: the acid setup one works midscreen too.

I'm starting to think the reason they went the preset route is because 80% of the moves just aren't viable. First off, I am by no means calling Erron bad, but without enhanced LnL and Scud Shot, he might be. TNT is abysmal, F32 on hit into TNT is punishable by anyone with a long-range move...

Not sure if this is known, but F32 LnL 2 is a true block string and Lnl D1 appears to be unavoidable (can't jump and too far away for quick pokes, including his ridiculous D4). This isn't the most useful thing in the world since it's unsafe but it's something you can use if they're mashing or...

b3 tip range into spirit ball seems kind of good, not many characters have a way of punishing you for it, and if they do...I guess you could use shadow tackle or teleport (so many characters in this game feel extremely shallow).

Pretty sure the optimal Bnb midscreen with NDC preset is F22/B12 ND dash forward 22 AmpSaw dash 23 DB4 for 268...cool. For punishing midscreen, 22 AmpSaw dash 23 ND f3DB4 for 294.

that didn't combo, look at the hit counter on the top left, after the F22 it says 2 hits then restarts the counter. edit: just set to auto guard

Honestly, I'd take meterless cancels that leave me at like -1ish over spending a defensive bar for +1. I may have been being a bit hyperbolic by calling him garbage but he is by no means a great character.

You get these things at the cost of your breaker and F2/B1 NDC aren't hit confirmable like F22 and B12 so all you really get off them is a D1/grab mixup (f4 off the F2NDC but that still trades with some D1's), assuming you're in range for that. Even if you could hit confirm them you get a max...

pretty sure B2 got nerfed too, it's only +2 now

His restand is now +2 on hit, it was +6 and his b1 is now -3, it was -1. That's all I've found so far.

I've found that if you don't input 21212 very cleanly (ie: you press 1 or 2 after the final 2) it's basically impossible to cancel into a special. On the plus side this character is great, probably the only character, of the ones I wanted to use, that has a preset that doesn't feel like a...

I mean we had Kabal in the beta, his combo paths are extremely limited so it isn't hard to definitively say that we know his max damage midscreen off B12 or F22. A quick glance at erron, sonya, geras, and jax (probably others) make Kabal look pretty lacking.

the game calculates this for you now, so yes.

Gunna have to strongly disagree, spending defensive meter to make his best strings, f22 and b12, +1 and neutral respectively is a bad tradeoff while many other characters can get roughly the same results for no meter, and his NDC preset has no combo damage, no corner carry, no restand (which got...

played around with the TNT variation, seems like this is his shit preset (everyone has at least one lol, Kabal has 2), command throw is decent but it switches sides so it doesn't really allow for wall carry or corner pressure, TNT is too slow for any sort of setups, and being able to cancel...

I'm in training mode right now, those don't work. Looks like Kabal has gone from bad to worse.