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Video/Tutorial Aris' Thoughts on Deathstroke - "nothing should be patched"

chrismoke

chrismoke

Noob
I totally agree with Aris and in fact was thinking of the same exact example before i even watched this video, people bitching about low tiger shots when CE came out in the arcades. This shitty behavior is not new, and it's not just the MK community; Sagat in vanilla SF4, YUN in AE, Sentinel/Wesker in early Marvel.. I do still hope NRS takes a more measured approach to patching this game than they did with MK though.
 
ProudDisciple

ProudDisciple

Average at Best
Sure hope this mentality and outspokenness becomes contagious among other top players not just about DS but towards Injustice as a whole. Games should have something like a grace period to be broken down before getting altered.
 
bloodsport

bloodsport

wat
teh_jawNie said:
Dont even, Everyone and their mother was bitching about deathstroke from the online so called scrubs to the so called Top Tier " PROS " were bitching, and people wonder why this community gets fkn made fun of n shit all the time.
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aaaaaaand yet... they weren't only from TYM or the MKC. not to mention almost every attempt at throwing a tantrum about the character on this site was quickly shot down. try again. and nobody here cares who makes fun of this community. it's a video game.

cyke_out said:
that fact the anyone on TYM is bitching is the problem. I understand that other sites and forums are not so tournament focused. they are casual scrubs, who complain about everything. People who come to TYM do so to get better and actually learn the game. I'd expect these people to have more common sense, your average Gamefaq user.
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you realize anyone is welcome to join TYM and complain about something, right? and that everyone gets salty, right? and that lots of people were complaining about deathstroke all over the interwebs, not just on TYM, right? ok. now what is your favorite animal?
 
killa_solid

killa_solid

Friendly--foe
If they make wake ups as good as mk, then rushdown would be near useless in this game. The lack of super invincible wakeups is the wat makes rush down be worthwhile. The game already caters to zoning a lot with the way the clash system is set up, walk speed, corner escapes/intractable, and push blocking. People need to learn to block instead of mash wakeups. There is no huge chip on normals like MK, so there is no justification to make wake ups any better. Learn to block.
 
ColdBoreMK23

ColdBoreMK23

Noob Saibot
I wish both the Deathstroke haters and supporters would leave for a few days so we can talk about the real problems like buffing Aquaman.

=)
 
Rodshod123

Rodshod123

OH BABY!!!
killa_solid said:
If they make wake ups as good as mk, then rushdown would be near useless in this game. The lack of super invincible wakeups is the wat makes rush down be worthwhile. The game already caters to zoning a lot with the way the clash system is set up, walk speed, corner escapes/intractable, and push blocking. People need to learn to block instead of mash wakeups. There is no huge chip on normals like MK, so there is no justification to make wake ups any better. Learn to
block.
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Wait wait who said anything about mashing wakeups? Lol I understand where your coming. But I think you should be able to wakeup in peace a few times and have a few seconds to rethink tour strategy and approach. I never always rely on wakeup attacks and I know how to block ;) but having to guess a mixup every time u touch the floor and having people spam armor move on ur wakeup and other shit. I know zoning is strong but its not that strong. I have tech/strategies that makes deathstroke spam zoning free I never lost to one yet. Also just like in tekken tech Rollin gets u blown up especially by doomsday.
 
Scarlett Viper

Scarlett Viper

Let's begin the witching hour.
teh_jawNie said:
Dont even, Everyone and their mother was bitching about deathstroke from the online so called scrubs to the so called Top Tier " PROS " were bitching, and people wonder why this community gets fkn made fun of n shit all the time.
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Well the SF community aint much better I hear
 
salvificblood

salvificblood

Worst Sub-Zero Ever
Wakeups are bad because you have so many other options to get out of pressure. Blocking and counterpoking is always good, you know.
 
Skkra

Skkra

PSN: Skkra
Rodshod123 said:
The only thing in this game that needs to be patch is the wakeup system. Its real bad.
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The wakeup system in this game is fine. If you get knocked down, you should be forced to deal with wakeup pressure. That is the attacker's reward for getting a hard knockdown.

If you bring back the MK-style "free" wakeups, then the oki game gets reduced down to a simple 50/50 again... are they going to do a wakeup, or aren't they? This game properly rewards hard knockdowns, and with all of the universal options - armored f+3/b+3, interactables, backdash invulnerability, clash - there is no need to change it.
 
Raidenwins

Raidenwins

Raiden Practitioner
Well said Aris, very well said indeed! People just need to chill out, go into practice mode, learn how to play the game, find ways (with their character of choice) to get around Deathstroke's zoning, and be patient. Maybe half a year from now (or some other suitable amount of time) if, after everything in the game has been discovered, all strategies with all characters fully explored, several major tournaments have passed, etc., Deathstroke is deemed to be too overpowered, then we can talk about patching him.

The last thing we want is a series of unnecessary nerfs (like in MK9) that would only hurt the game.
 
Epidemicc

Epidemicc

Noob
I really don't think deathstroke is that good of a character. very basic, fundamental zoning... people just don't want to play patient in the match up~! not much depth to this character.
Source: iplayhim
 
xInfra Deadx

xInfra Deadx

Gimmick stolen by Jordan Peele
Epidemicc said:
I really don't think deathstroke is that good of a character. very basic, fundamental zoning... people just don't want to play patient in the match up~! not much depth to this character.
Source: iplayhim
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You probably haven't played a good one yet...
 
Pound IC

Pound IC

Noob
Rodshod123 said:
Wait wait who said anything about mashing wakeups? Lol I understand where your coming. But I think you should be able to wakeup in peace a few times and have a few seconds to rethink tour strategy and approach. I never always rely on wakeup attacks and I know how to block ;) but having to guess a mixup every time u touch the floor and having people spam armor move on ur wakeup and other shit. I know zoning is strong but its not that strong. I have tech/strategies that makes deathstroke spam zoning free I never lost to one yet. Also just like in tekken tech Rollin gets u blown up especially by doomsday.
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Armor them back? Oki should favor the person standing. Oki was totalled fucked in MK and made the game stupid at times. The person who just got their ass knocked down should be at a major disadvantage, and this game gives you that. It's perfect
 
Rodshod123

Rodshod123

OH BABY!!!
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Pound IC said:
Armor them back? Oki should favor the person standing. Oki was totalled fucked in MK and made the game stupid at times. The person who just got their ass knocked down should be at a major disadvantage, and this game gives you that. It's perfect
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Nobody understanding what I'm trying to say I have no real problems with how the wakeup system is. I dont mash wakeups and i know how to block. If, I hated it so bad I'll make thread about it with a paragraph of bitching lol. I play tekken and wakeups in that game is thing but guesses. But when certain characters abuse how the system works its kinda lame characters like green arrow who can get 100% combos because of it. Doomsday's who run trains on you while our waking up. As the game progress more ppl will start finding exploits of how the system is made and abuse it. Heck Ares gets free armored unblockables on wakeup?? Like come on lol. Also you can get on wakeup you'll get hit in a juggle state.
 
Enenra

Enenra

Go to hell.
Error Macro said:
Ppl are trying but it's kind of hard when Deathstroke is picked in half the games because it's so stupid easy to win with him.
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You need to play better opponents then. Most of the guys I fight on TYM are a battle with DS. It would be much easier with Doomsday, Black Adam, Green Lantern, or Killer Frost.
 
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