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New York Pizza

New York Pizza

Noob
New awareness. I'm prone to buffer attacks and/ or misusing tools to counter them. Luckily all those matches with shazzys Cody eating his st lk ~ ruffian kick after blocking his low forward helped me realize this weakness- though it was annoying lol. Kolins and Sakuras lk are strong ones too.These kinds of tools are a huge part of sf so I'm sure this will help me a lot.
 
Johnny Based Cage

Johnny Based Cage

The Shangest of Tsungs
New York Pizza said:
New awareness. I'm prone to buffer attacks and/ or misusing tools to counter them. Luckily all those matches with shazzys Cody eating his st lk ~ ruffian kick after blocking his low forward helped me realize this weakness- though it was annoying lol. Kolins and Sakuras lk are strong ones too.These kinds of tools are a huge part of sf so I'm sure this will help me a lot.
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Something I always wondered about buffering: is the whole special being input, just fast enough that it doesn’t come out on whiff, or are they actually just buffering the directional inputs and hit-confirming the attack button for the special if the light hit connects?

Because the latter sounds like a bitch and I’m assuming the former would be death if they block bc then the punishable special comes out so you have to make sure to do it only in your whiff punishing range/outside of their block range. So I always figured the former but it’d be good to confirm it finally, no pun.
 
ILuvFightGames

ILuvFightGames

Noob
Johnny Based Cage said:
Something I always wondered about buffering: is the whole special being input, just fast enough that it doesn’t come out on whiff, or are they actually just buffering the directional inputs and hit-confirming the attack button for the special if the light hit connects?

Because the latter sounds like a bitch and I’m assuming the former would be death if they block bc then the punishable special comes out so you have to make sure to do it only in your whiff punishing range/outside of their block range. So I always figured the former but it’d be good to confirm it finally, no pun.
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I think it's the former also, there's no way in hell someone can hit confirm off a 7f lk, or at least nobody can but I may be wrong, I've always wondered this also.
 
New York Pizza

New York Pizza

Noob
Johnny Based Cage said:
Something I always wondered about buffering: is the whole special being input, just fast enough that it doesn’t come out on whiff, or are they actually just buffering the directional inputs and hit-confirming the attack button for the special if the light hit connects?

Because the latter sounds like a bitch and I’m assuming the former would be death if they block bc then the punishable special comes out so you have to make sure to do it only in your whiff punishing range/outside of their block range. So I always figured the former but it’d be good to confirm it finally, no pun.
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It's the former, yeah it's a legitimate option select because the special won't come out entirely if the normal is wiffed. Like when I block shazzys low forward, he knows I'm going to counter poke with a 5-8 frame medium attack since my lights won't reach. Therefore he's pressing lk and the directionals inputs on block so when his lk beats out my move all He presses is the final input. If I were to to nothing his lk would likely wiff hense the crouching forward' s range and no special would come out (no pun).
 
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ILuvFightGames

ILuvFightGames

Noob
Sfv has around 100 less entrants than dbz registered for Evo this year, which if you go by past events where a large percentage of dbz entrants cancel a couple days before then I think sfv will have more 'real' entrants again than any other game. That aside, I honestly thought dbz in its first Evo would get closer numbers to sfv's first year, but sfv had 3,000 more than dbz on both games first Evo, three... thousand...more...umm...3k more...


Ps- is it because of Daigo? :DOGE
 
xiskza

xiskza

Underworld
1) DragonBall FighterZ - 2530
2) Street Fighter V: Arcade Edition - 2421
3) Tekken 7 - 1504
4) Super Smash Bros. for WiiU - 1303
5) Super Smash Bros. Melee - 1302
6) BlazBlue: Cross Tag Battle - 1148
7) Guilty Gear Xrd: Rev 2 - 621
8) Injustice 2 - 356
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Yeah for Mr Wizard's comments about how DBFZ had a very big lead over SFV, seems to have backfired with only a 100 difference between the 2 games. Nobody was expecting DBFZ to have SFV 2016 numbers though, that was a freak year, but I expected more
But still, for SFV's 3rd (4th if you count Beta's) EVO, its having pretty good numbers. Still higher than SF4's.
Injustice has less entrants than KOF last year, embarassing. When's MK11? Wouldnt surprise me if MVCI's side tournament had more action. If MK11 doesnt come out by next year, I dont think we'll have a NRS game. SC6 will probably replace it
 
Linkuei82

Linkuei82

Live by the sword, Die by the sword
Yea just saw the numbers. The dbfz lead was so exaggerated. SFV being two years old and having 109 less entrance then a new game is pretty impressive. But still dbfz hasn't beat SF numbers from the two previous years.

Injustice is done after this year...
 
ILuvFightGames

ILuvFightGames

Noob
Yea SFV's first year at EVO entrants is probably never going to be beaten, it was a freak thing that many entrants. Injustice numbers are too low, that's weird considering most people claim it's the most balanced nrs game, but that don't translate into fun or popular obviously. Bbtag looks interesting tbh, I've been wanting to get into another fighter but tekken seems too time consuming for my taste, dbz I'm not interested, gg seems like a choice but maybe bbtag might be a game I try out.
 
JBeezYBabY

JBeezYBabY

Mr. Righteous
ILuvFightGames said:
Yea SFV's first year at EVO entrants is probably never going to be beaten, it was a freak thing that many entrants. Injustice numbers are too low, that's weird considering most people claim it's the most balanced nrs game, but that don't translate into fun or popular obviously. Bbtag looks interesting tbh, I've been wanting to get into another fighter but tekken seems too time consuming for my taste, dbz I'm not interested, gg seems like a choice but maybe bbtag might be a game I try out.
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Since this will be my first EVO, if anybody plans on being there, lets meet up! As far as a second fighter, id say try BBTag. Its more depth than DBFZ, and the online is waaaaaay better than DBFZ. Its at least worth a try ;)
 
ILuvFightGames

ILuvFightGames

Noob
JBeezYBabY said:
Since this will be my first EVO, if anybody plans on being there, lets meet up! As far as a second fighter, id say try BBTag. Its more depth than DBFZ, and the online is waaaaaay better than DBFZ. Its at least worth a try ;)
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Nice, yea I'm thinking of getting BBTag, looks real fun. Damn I wish I could attend Evo, maybe next year, I hope you have a lot of fun dude.
 
New York Pizza

New York Pizza

Noob
Nrs community is like spoiled children bro lol. Well one thing, the steep decline in evo entrants has always been a constant since 2011 so it's no surprise, it just so happens that this year there is no dev support so the numbers have plummeted to embarrassing levels. It's like the second nrs shows the slightest procrastination on keeping the community enticed to keep playing their games the players just abandon them entirely. How competitive players don't see the benefit in showing long term support to one of the longest running, richest fg devs out there even if they don't necessarily "love" the current game is beyond me. This community is infamous for their whining and lack of professionalism anyway so the fact nrs shown as much support they've had in the first place is a miracle lol. Nrs has constantly tried to exercise their serious, competitive muscle to show that they want to be in for the longevity with updates, patches, pot bonus' but they always get blatantly shitted on by their own "pro" players. K i d s man
 
FL Rushdown

FL Rushdown

Noob
New York Pizza said:
Nrs community is like spoiled children bro lol. Well one thing, the steep decline in evo entrants has always been a constant since 2011 so it's no surprise, it just so happens that this year there is no dev support so the numbers have plummeted to embarrassing levels. It's like the second nrs shows the slightest procrastination on keeping the community enticed to keep playing their games the players just abandon them entirely. How competitive players don't see the benefit in showing long term support to one of the longest running, richest fg devs out there even if they don't necessarily "love" the current game is beyond me. This community is infamous for their whining and lack of professionalism anyway so the fact nrs shown as much support they've had in the first place is a miracle lol. Nrs has constantly tried to exercise their serious, competitive muscle to show that they want to be in for the longevity with updates, patches, pot bonus' but they always get blatantly shitted on by their own "pro" players. K i d s man
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People gotta spend money to play a game they don’t wanna play? Fuck outta here lol.
 
Johnny Based Cage

Johnny Based Cage

The Shangest of Tsungs
NRS didn’t have as big a fan base to begin with and now it’s at least somewhat split between two different franchises. Sure plenty of people play and love both but plenty also don’t.
 
Linkuei82

Linkuei82

Live by the sword, Die by the sword
MK9 still to this day has live longer at Evo then any other nrs game after it. I still think mk9 was the best and hypest game for this community and feel we will never have that time again.

Looks like most people feel the same as I feel about dbfz. I got bored with that game. BBtag actually looks more fun. Hell even MvCi looks more fun to me then dbfz. Apparently more Vegeta's and Goku's are the next dlc.
 
FL Rushdown

FL Rushdown

Noob
Linkuei82 said:
So Infiltration commented that Sako needed to work on his neutral with Menat...but just lost the mirror match against Sako on stream.
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Having an area to improve in doesn’t mean you can’t win. A good player knows that even people at Sako and infiltrations level have areas they can improve in.
 
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