Enter the Bane: General Discussion

thlityoursloat said:

I just unlocked his double punch ability and wow.. do I miss it. It's better in every way than that piece of crap -30 overhead that has its animation recycled from raging charge MB.

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I have all of his Inj 1 abilities, so I totally made that version of Bane (I used the double punch and the MB drop kick off the uppercut . The command grab is functionally the same, except you can pick which side they go to).

I'm totally with you homie, Mercenary Elbow can go kick rocks, lol.

ChoseDeath said:

I have all of his Inj 1 abilities, so I totally made that version of Bane (I used the double punch and the MB drop kick off the uppercut . The command grab is functionally the same, except you can pick which side they go to).

I'm totally with you homie, Mercenary Elbow can go kick rocks, lol.

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DP was also +30 on hit so it guaranteed a free dash.. oh man.. if only.. if only.

Which are Bane true hard knockdowns? @Wetdoba THANKS BRO!

It appears that Bane has quit big politics of his universe and became a Tyler Durden of his small fighting club somewhere on Gotham's outskirts. I get this impression mostly because nobody talks about Bane as if it was rule #1 and 2 simultaneously.

Maybe that has something to do with trendy migration to discords and similar shit (although this doesn't happen everywhere). Maybe something else.

Seriously though, what do you think has become of Bane as of the recent patch?

Character itself wasn't touched, but it seems that his opposition will go through a period of shifting, although I'm not sure it's necessarily for the better.

Is there a chance he will become more survivable as far as events are concerned? Will people who have dropped him so hard you could hear that "BOOM!!!" from across the continent consider trying him out in some matchups again?

Barrogh said:

It appears that Bane has quit big politics of his universe and became a Tyler Durden of his small fighting club somewhere on Gotham's outskirts. I get this impression mostly because nobody talks about Bane as if it was rule #1 and 2 simultaneously.

Maybe that has something to do with trendy migration to discords and similar shit (although this doesn't happen everywhere). Maybe something else.

Seriously though, what do you think has become of Bane as of the recent patch?

Character itself wasn't touched, but it seems that his opposition will go through a period of shifting, although I'm not sure it's necessarily for the better.

Is there a chance he will become more survivable as far as events are concerned? Will people who have dropped him so hard you could hear that "BOOM!!!" from across the continent consider trying him out in some matchups again?

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Hes probably going to be pretty well off in this meta with batman and redhood being brought down but its simply just not satisfying to play him anymore when f'ing command grab does less than a throw still. He is perfectly viable, but the design of his command grab as a whole now just leaves me salty and unsatisfied.

Ive moved onto swampthing with bane as a pocket for now, hopefully one day they undo the ckmmand grab nerf and then ill be all over him again but right now swamp is about 10x more satisfying to grab people with

Wetdoba said:

Hes probably going to be pretty well off in this meta with batman and redhood being brought down but its simply just not satisfying to play him anymore when f'ing command grab does less than a throw still. He is perfectly viable, but the design of his command grab as a whole now just leaves me salty and unsatisfied.

Ive moved onto swampthing with bane as a pocket for now, hopefully one day they undo the ckmmand grab nerf and then ill be all over him again but right now swamp is about 10x more satisfying to grab people with

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Fuck. Yes. Preach it brother.

ChoseDeath said:

Fuck. Yes. Preach it brother.

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Exaclty! 130 dmg for a Bane Bomb when a Vine Grab does 190 dmg?!
Swamp seems more viable in every situation. As a Bane main, I am playing Swamp Thing and loving it (even pre patch), but I still hope they do something about him in the next patch.

And now that the tree gets new buffs to even replicate some of Bane's shenanigans (on top of buff to threat range), I sometimes feel like there's almost no point starting Bane now (mustard race here, so just starting).

i can see why people are moving over to the swamp. Bane is just too hype for me to drop though

Are we bottom 5 right now?

El_Rubio said:

Are we bottom 5 right now?

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No

And random nonsensical grab immunity is the most ass thing in this game

Fellow_Swordsman said:

And random nonsensical grab immunity is the most ass thing in this game

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Like SG d2, BB or BM charge moves... some D3 at a certain distance...

Even, BB jump on wakeup literally goes through bane´s grab.

El_Rubio said:

Even, BB jump on wakeup literally goes through bane´s grab.

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I was pretty sure that pre-jump frames were also grab immune and you could never catch anyone holding "up" ever.

Thanks for the tip. I still believe Bane is bottom 5 now. Can´t think 5 characters worst than him.

The only one that comes to my mind is Joker, but IDK how is he doing with his invincible WU

I was wondering where I could find this jacket https://imgur.com/zxXhVzZ

El_Rubio said:

Thanks for the tip. I still believe Bane is bottom 5 now. Can´t think 5 characters worst than him.

The only one that comes to my mind is Joker, but IDK how is he doing with his invincible WU

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I don't quite think Bane is bottom 5 bad, but he is most definitely bottom 10. Given, we are still super-early into the new meta, and it is possible that the buffs given to the likes of Joker and Cyborg may be enough to overtake him, in which case Bane would be pretty damn competitive for a member of the bottom 5.

He has some very powerful tools that happen to be directly countered by much of the cast, based arbitrarily on the tools apportioned to other characters.

He is also in desperate need for some long overdue quality of life fixes.

The greatest problem with him, on a competitive level, is just how easily counterpickable he is. While he does fine against most of the cast, there exists a large handful of characters such as Batman, Red Hood, and Beetle that are hard counterpicks to him, and the pool of characters is large enough that nearly everyone has a pocket character that hard counters Bane. This makes him extremely risky to use in tournaments, as he is practically guaranteed an uphill battle series as every opponent will aim to counterpick him.

hard counterpiking bane:
Cold, Superman, WoWo, BB, Starfire, Red Hood, Batman, Deadshot...

I'm trying to learn the MU's with bane but I can't really find a MU chart anywhere. Is this only being discussed in a discord or is nobody playing this character?

Question:

What matchups does Bane win/lose in some sort of just short explanation? I just played a decent amount of various characters in a Koth and just felt like everyone I fought had some sort of answer for Bane.

Cursa said:

Question:

What matchups does Bane win/lose in some sort of just short explanation? I just played a decent amount of various characters in a Koth and just felt like everyone I fought had some sort of answer for Bane.

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From my experience using Bane I have some struggles with Green Arrow (the worst), Doctor fate, Wonder woman, Sub zero, Superman and Swamp thing. But I do want to know what people think about his matchups but there are not a lot of Bane players out there.

Bane beats Green Lantern because he outdamages him can armor through his gaps , doesn't have to fear his zoning, doesn't have to fear him upclose because he isn't oppressive.

As a (shitty) Black Canary main, I would like to know what you think about the match up. I feel that Canary runaway game (backflip meterbuild) destroys Bane. I never struggle vs a Bane of my level.

nugava said:

As a (shitty) Black Canary main, I would like to know what you think about the match up. I feel that Canary runaway game (backflip meterbuild) destroys Bane. I never struggle vs a Bane of my level.

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I think canary beats Bane she is hard to deal with upclose , her flips gives her the meter advantage and she does just as much damage as you but for less risk.