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Post Patch Batman MU chart Injustice 2

TheGangstaFace

Psn, Xbox, Twitter: TheGangstaFace
Great list. I agree with like 95%. Only things i think are that harley beats him, starfire beats him (a good starefire feels like a nightmare), and i feel like green arrow is his hardest mu followed by red hood. Captain cold also lowkey does VERY good against him.

I like this list though. Good to see batman players for the most part agree on a lot of his mus.
I think Captain Cold is a momentum based matchup honestly but they also excel over each other in different aspects. Captain Cold’s mid screen over Batman’s but Batman’s pressure/corner (duh it’s Batman) over Cold’s
 

tafka Djinn

One for three off the roof
I think Captain Cold is a momentum based matchup honestly but they also excel over each other in different aspects. Captain Cold’s mid screen over Batman’s but Batman’s pressure/corner (duh it’s Batman) over Cold’s
Really? Because I have it the other way around since we can snow globe loop in the corner, or cash out for pretty much a life bar.
 

SylverRye

Official Loop Kang Main
I think Captain Cold is a momentum based matchup honestly but they also excel over each other in different aspects. Captain Cold’s mid screen over Batman’s but Batman’s pressure/corner (duh it’s Batman) over Cold’s
The thing about cold is, you cant jump at him, if you try zoning him he can duck rangs charge a bit repeat so you have to go in or he gets level 2. Batman cant do anything about his puddle and iirc he has a 6f poke that low profiles. It would be more noticeable but nobody uses cold and many that do dont use all his tools.
 

TheGangstaFace

Psn, Xbox, Twitter: TheGangstaFace
Yeah it’s hard to find a cold that uses the character properly. But there are some great things about Batman that help get around Cold’s stuff. Like Batman’s double jump helps him get out of snow globe and slide with a bat out makes cold not wanna shoot an ice ball. Like I said though I just feel like whoever really gets going first can control the match. Once I open up cold with a combo I just throw batarangs. Idc about some trades. I’ll win the zoning war in the long run. And if you get cold in the corner you can punish wall all day so it makes him not wanna wake up @SylverRye and @tafka Djinn Colds corner kinda has to be setup in order for him to really fuck you up. Batman is Batman. He’ll fuck anyone up in the corner that isn’t GA
 

Jugghead

Noob
Except it's really not, she is just as free when getting cornered.
Well I appreciate you sharing your opinion rather than just lying again about what I said :). I agree that Harley's WU game is weak, so I'm not going to argue.

What I am interested in is why RH is Batman's worst MU.
 

navaroNe

Nobody's afraid of Bruce Wayne
So after attending Absolute Battle, ECT, IPS, SCR and other tournaments after the patch and pretty much dropping most of my secondaries to put more time into Batman, this is what I think of his matchup chart now:

Aquaman 5-5 but Aquaman controls the pace of the match

Atrocitus 6-4

Bane 6-4 or 7-3

Batman 5-5 or 5.5-4.5 if it's my Batman

Black Adam 5-5

Black Canary 6-4

Blue Beetle 6-4 maybe 5-5

Captain Cold 5-5 or possible 4-6

Catwoman 5-5

Cheetah 6-4 or 7-3

Cyborg 6-4

Darkseid 5-5

Deadshot 4-6

Doctor Fate 5-5 or maybe 4-6

Firestorm 5-5

Flash 5-5 but Batman controls the pace of the match

Gorilla Grodd 6-4

Green Arrow 4-6

Green Lantern 5-5 or possible 6-4

Harley Quinn 4-6 could maybe be 5-5

Joker basically 0 matchup experience but considering their tools I'd assume Batman wins

Poison Ivy 6-4

Red Hood 4-6 this is Batmans hardest matchup in my opinion, he zones out Batman and he punishes B23 on block with lunge

Robin 6-4

Scarecrow 6-4

Starfire 5-5

Sub Zero 6-4

Supergirl 5-5 or possible 4-6, she def controls the pace of the match and her quick lasers get rid of Batman's trait easily. Threat of teleport and quick lasers doesn't let Batman zone and D2 keeps him from jumping in

Superman 6-4

Swamp Thing 6-4 or 7-3

Wonder Woman 5-5

Ask me any questions about any specific matchup if you want me to give details on why I gave it that number
You really think the Captain Cold matchup is in his favor?
 
So after attending Absolute Battle, ECT, IPS, SCR and other tournaments after the patch and pretty much dropping most of my secondaries to put more time into Batman, this is what I think of his matchup chart now:

Aquaman 5-5 but Aquaman controls the pace of the match

Atrocitus 6-4

Bane 6-4 or 7-3

Batman 5-5 or 5.5-4.5 if it's my Batman

Black Adam 5-5

Black Canary 6-4

Blue Beetle 6-4 maybe 5-5

Captain Cold 5-5 or possible 4-6

Catwoman 5-5

Cheetah 6-4 or 7-3

Cyborg 6-4

Darkseid 5-5

Deadshot 4-6

Doctor Fate 5-5 or maybe 4-6

Firestorm 5-5

Flash 5-5 but Batman controls the pace of the match

Gorilla Grodd 6-4

Green Arrow 4-6

Green Lantern 5-5 or possible 6-4

Harley Quinn 4-6 could maybe be 5-5

Joker basically 0 matchup experience but considering their tools I'd assume Batman wins

Poison Ivy 6-4

Red Hood 4-6 this is Batmans hardest matchup in my opinion, he zones out Batman and he punishes B23 on block with lunge

Robin 6-4

Scarecrow 6-4

Starfire 5-5

Sub Zero 6-4

Supergirl 5-5 or possible 4-6, she def controls the pace of the match and her quick lasers get rid of Batman's trait easily. Threat of teleport and quick lasers doesn't let Batman zone and D2 keeps him from jumping in

Superman 6-4

Swamp Thing 6-4 or 7-3

Wonder Woman 5-5

Ask me any questions about any specific matchup if you want me to give details on why I gave it that number
When are you gonna start back streaming and Secondly there is no maybe 5-5 for Harley she has all the tools to make Batman go thru hell to get in.
 

RNLDRGN

RONALD ROGAN
Agreed on Swamp Thing MU. Batman can zone or rush him down easy. Bats beats the ever-loving piss out of our swamp lord. Only thing Batman has to worry about is not getting cornered.
 

Jugghead

Noob
We (RH) just beat him (BM) on so much of the screen. Zoning war is heavily tilted to Red Hood, and Batman basically having to hold Lunges actual puts a lot on Batsy.
I do agree RH wins the zoning war, but I don't think its won "heavily". Certainty not as much as Deadshot, GA, or Harley. Since RH players use a lot of mines, its not uncommon to punish that with grapple a couple times a match. Then once the pressure is on Batman has good corner carry and RH is done in the corner. The fast lunges are tough though. I just don't see how its worse than GA. GA has low and OH projectiles, safe low --> OH WU, and good range on his D2 with the bow. The low poke into freeze arrow is good too.
 

The_Tile

Your hole is mine!
You can just burst any jump in on a read and if they don't jump it recovers pretty fast. It's the main anti air Gunshow uses.
Burst is seriously not a reliable anti air, it's much better to just backdash out of range or trip guard tbh.
 
This seems like a good place to post this because of j2 lmao but I play flash and picked up bdam just this week. My question is does anyone make a read on a jump in or a neutral jump on your wake up and your d2 doesn't reach? I swear it pisses me off but you can't wait too long or you'll get stuffed, batman j2 for example.
 

Fred Marvel

It's actually Freddy Marvel
Never played batman a day in my life but even I know aquaman batman isn't even lol the rest is probably right tho. Red hood does well and GL is at slight disadvantage
 

GuerillaTactix

#bufftakeda
Never played batman a day in my life but even I know aquaman batman isn't even lol the rest is probably right tho. Red hood does well and GL is at slight disadvantage
I would think the full screen game isn’t as scary now that AM can’t get full combos off Tentacle. 5-5 seems right to me. I’m curious about this though.
 

The_Tile

Your hole is mine!
It is tho.
The timing on it is finicky cause of how slow it is. It's easy to do it too early and you'll get tagged by a jump in.

Like you said anyway that's on a read he can trip guard on reaction with B2/F2 which is the better option imo. Either that or trip guard with trap. Against Batman it's just as, if not more difficult to contest him in the air with FS than anyone else though
 

GuerillaTactix

#bufftakeda
I don't think the full screen game was the only reason it was tough for batman.
Yeah, but I feel like it was that definitive factor to keep in mind when Batman was losing that footsie game. It's like you can't stay away but you can't get in cuz d2 and b1. That change to tentacle strike seriously impacted that mu IMO. I'd like to hear more opinions on it though as I don't play AM and barely play BM.
 

DubiousShenron

Beware my power.
If you think Doctor Fate v batman is hard. Pick any other character other than batman and try to deal with orb freeze.

Batman is hands down the best character at dealing with orb. Stop crying
 

Jugghead

Noob
If you think Doctor Fate v batman is hard. Pick any other character other than batman and try to deal with orb freeze.

Batman is hands down the best character at dealing with orb. Stop crying
I don't play Fate or these other characters so I don't know, but what makes Batman best to deal with it over other characters? Superman, Supergirl, Blue Beetle, Cyborg seem like they can get around it through the air and even attack. Can Sub slide under it? Does it really affect Deadshot? What about Black Adam? I'm genuinely curious what makes Batman the best at dealing with the orb?

Also, who was crying?