Yeah but all of them are stuffable or you can just neutral jump against her on wake-up as I said on my previous post.
Lol he means Batman 6-4’s her
I think it funny how you said that I said Harley doesn't have a problem getting knocked down, when I never said that at all. I said her WU options in the corner are better than RHs.
Except it's really not, she is just as free when getting cornered.
seems more like her actual wakeup move not the inv frames
No, I'm talking about the vulnerable frames as to when the move can get stuffed.
Ivy has shite anti-airs, Batman has jump 2....
You have plenty of options against him as you can see from this chart, but I guess if you're only a Superman player I can understand why you hate him
Haven't played that matchup yet, interesting statement though
He doesn't get in for free with trait, he still has to walk crouch walk crouch walk crouch like anyone else to get in vs Deadshot. Using trait full screen isn't going to achieve anything, although up close trait can be very useful. The thing is Deadshot builds so much meter from zoning that he almost always has pushblock which gets rid of Batman's trait.
I say this based on
The first number is Batman's number, the 2nd number is the opponent's number. So me saying it's 6-4 means it's advantageous for Batman.
I still feel like it could be advantage to Harley. But it's very good for Batman that she's a female, so when you get in finally you can do wonky setups with F3 crossing up. It gives Batman a mix-up factor he doesn't usually have. Also you can react to Harley's overhead. So with good defense and patience you can eventually work your way in and try to smother Harley. Also her D2 isn't the greatest which means Batmans J2 is even better vs her. Also gotta work on conversions like if she whiffs an air gun, you can anti air stand 1, 123, release trait, B3, etc.
To be honest this is one of my least played matchups. But in my opinion Firestorm zoning isn't as much of a nuisance as Deadshot Harley Arrow Red Hood etc.
To be honest I just missed Brainiac somehow lol. But I think it's 6-4 Batman's favor. My brother plays it the best.
Play Gunshow. There's no comparing any Firestorm to his.
Batman can definitely be aggravating to fight against and his best attributes are without a doubt his J2 and his trait.
Poison Ivy doesn't have a reliable anti air to stop Batman from J2'ing her to death. Also you can react to all of Ivy's mixups so she's not a big threat up close, she's mostly going to be trying to zone you out. She can't zone you out forever with drills though, you're eventually going to walk her down. Especially if you read a drill and release trait, jump forward over the drill, and grapple for a full combo punish. That's going to make the Ivy scared to be overzealous with the drill, which is going to make it easier for you to get in. Her trait is good for keeping you away, but just block and weather the storm, let her build the meter it will go away soon. If she pressures you up close with trait, pushblock and make trait go away. Sometimes you can get lucky and hit wonky stuff like B2 slide or random slide to make her trait go away.
You can just burst any jump in on a read and if they don't jump it recovers pretty fast. It's the main anti air Gunshow uses.
Sure u can do that. Get stuffed once and your life melts away.
Or his jump 2 gets stuffed once and his life melts away since an anti air burst goes for about 40% for a bar.
