EMPRESS_SunFire
Regina George of discord
Flash has better neutral than Supergirl!? Yeah, you just lost any bit of credibility you had left lol
Flash has better neutral than Supergirl!? Yeah, you just lost any bit of credibility you had left lol
I had left? Never knew I even had any.
What you're describing is not neutral. Neutral is when both characters are apart who has the tools to get in and get the first hit. Everything you are describing is once Flash gets in and gets the hit, but his neutral is trash.
i respect your posts so i'd like to hear more about this. i feel like if i read the paragraph you wrote above, it's a very clear and concise explanation of exactly why deadshot loses.
I would expect its his reach. Same reason for most of AM's good matchups
Can't she just use her mobility? His f2 only hits low to the ground, while his b2 is pretty slow.
But his d2 is top tier vs air dashes and b3 his huge. Don't play either character much, but on paper I'd say a big chunk of SG's neutral relies on out-spacing her opponent with her footsie sting (don't even know the input
) but AM outspaces even that option and has good answers for the rest of her kit. 6f d1 for gaps and winning the matchup by default through chip seems in AM's favor too.
This is not how the neutral is played. It's a guess for both players. Flash is going to RMS in and either cancel it and block to bait your reaction, cancel it and go into a string if they suspect you'll whiff something, or end it with the overhead (or something else on a read). If you're tossing lasers all day, you're going to end up making an incorrect read on one on them, which will result in you losing a massive chunk of health and being cornered for mixups. So you have to be smart and also very quick to react to what's going on.
I'm still not conviced about his b2, but you are right about his b3 and trait. Also Teejay's usually pretty good with MU numbers.But his d2 is top tier vs air dashes and b3 his huge. Don't play either character much, but on paper I'd say a big chunk of SG's neutral relies on out-spacing her opponent with her footsie sting (don't even know the input
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on top of all that, AM's trait is great vs freeze combo starters
He outfootsies her, outranges her w f2/b2/b123, keeps her air mobility in check with b2/d2,air to air j1. He slips out of her breath combos which is a big deal because she needs meter to combo for big damage. He wins in the meter department as well. Although it did get better after his nerfs, he still is much better at controlling neutral than she is
It's a chicken/egg scenario. FTD interrupts attempts at trait, trait punishes FTD at close range. So it's all about who made the better reads from midscreen.
I literally meant what I was talking about. I know what neutral means. And I do believe Flash wins. Like Shadow said. RMS, his smoke punch, armored b'3-f3's, and his jump ins make him a threat. Supergirl outranges him with her normal, yes that true, however Flash can EASILY make her whiff something then do twice the damage she does with a FAAAAARRR better oki game.
the risk reward is heavily in your favor with anything concerning RMS in the neutral. It's a neutral tool, but it's not a particularly good one compared to other chars. Also, flash doesn't have igau lightning charge anymore, it's not like he gets a full combo off one good read.
