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BanTheTesters

“My AGENT is tougher than you...”
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Sup gang? Joker main here but ive been using CC as a back pocket character but that might change..been having a lot of fun with him just having trouble opening ppl up/dealing with pressure (also inputs etc)

Please welcome me with open and hopefully slightly chilly arms...
 

BanTheTesters

“My AGENT is tougher than you...”
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wow just played a green arrow and Harley quinn match up..

Im stumped on what to do against arrow...low arrow show seems to really mess up zoning and pressure/jump heavy characters seem to give him a hard time..not sure what to do against characters who just press buttons etc...

Also what string do you guys normally use to get started with? I tend to try to start with 133 but people low profile that and 213...

Is it best to do f2/233 or?
 
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wow just played a green arrow and Harley quinn match up..

Im stumped on what to do against arrow...low arrow show seems to really mess up zoning and pressure/jump heavy characters seem to give him a hard time..not sure what to do against characters who just press buttons etc...

Also what string do you guys normally use to get started with? I tend to try to start with 133 but people low profile that and 213...

Is it best to do f2/233 or?
I always start with F23, D1 then once they start respecting that i go for 122 or 133
 

Hiyomoto

Noob
wow just played a green arrow and Harley quinn match up..

Im stumped on what to do against arrow...low arrow show seems to really mess up zoning and pressure/jump heavy characters seem to give him a hard time..not sure what to do against characters who just press buttons etc...

Also what string do you guys normally use to get started with? I tend to try to start with 133 but people low profile that and 213...

Is it best to do f2/233 or?
Usually start off with F23 staggers. 122 is only good if you space it so the 1 will miss. Same for 213, missing 2 makes the string useful when you're walking back. If you end a combo standing with bf1, 213 will give you space if they block the follow up. I haven't had to deal with an arrow yet
 

Tanno

The Fantasy is the Reality of the Mind
In the beginning of the match I always start with the Wall to prevent them from comboing on me. I start the combos with F23xxMB BF (Big Freeze - DB3). The MB BF, also, works as an ice trap. With the right tech, this Ice Trap is a deadly weapon for punishing the characters, while forcing them to stop using half of their special moves.

Think of Captain Cold as a defensive character. Unlike the rest, he has defensive stuff to show out. He's quite similar to UB Sub.
 

BanTheTesters

“My AGENT is tougher than you...”
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Usually start off with F23 staggers. 122 is only good if you space it so the 1 will miss. Same for 213, missing 2 makes the string useful when you're walking back. If you end a combo standing with bf1, 213 will give you space if they block the follow up. I haven't had to deal with an arrow yet
In the beginning of the match I always start with the Wall to prevent them from comboing on me. I start the combos with F23xxMB BF (Big Freeze - DB3). The MB BF, also, works as an ice trap. With the right tech, this Ice Trap is a deadly weapon for punishing the characters, while forcing them to stop using half of their special moves.

Think of Captain Cold as a defensive character. Unlike the rest, he has defensive stuff to show out. He's quite similar to UB Sub.
Thanks and Excellent stuff guys! ill try to incorporate that into the routine!

Another question: should i not be playing him as a zoner? I tend to a bit and only start doing strings etc when ppl start to get close and or get passed death chicle obstacles....am i kind of playing him wrong or?
 

Hiyomoto

Noob
Thanks and Excellent stuff guys! ill try to incorporate that into the routine!

Another question: should i not be playing him as a zoner? I tend to a bit and only start doing strings etc when ppl start to get close and or get passed death chicle obstacles....am i kind of playing him wrong or?
I play him as a zoner/spacer. I also think his icicle zoning is downplayed. He can drop one right after the first. I usually put the 1st where my opponent is and I drop the second icicle where I think they'll go to avoid the first. It can be pretty overwhelming if you're making the right reads cause if they block any, you're still plus from full screen and you can "trap" then between two falling icicles. He has decent rush down.
 

BanTheTesters

“My AGENT is tougher than you...”
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For the record i can NOT doing anything against ppl pressing buttons in this game....its usually low profile, d1 it interrupt then d2 or something like that...ive also seen some characters literally special through the wall as a meaty....
 

Hiyomoto

Noob
For the record i can NOT doing anything against ppl pressing buttons in this game....its usually low profile, d1 it interrupt then d2 or something like that...ive also seen some characters literally special through the wall as a meaty....
When people press buttons, I just d1 into wall. But I understand your struggle, I feel as if CC struggles against mashers or maybe it's just us.
 

sars

Noob
For the record i can NOT doing anything against ppl pressing buttons in this game....its usually low profile, d1 it interrupt then d2 or something like that...ive also seen some characters literally special through the wall as a meaty....
Just need to block or push block them away until you get a chance to gain space control again.
 

BanTheTesters

“My AGENT is tougher than you...”
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When people press buttons, I just d1 into wall. But I understand your struggle, I feel as if CC struggles against mashers or maybe it's just us.
Hmm i might have to try that again normally i just get hit out of the animation

Just need to block or push block them away until you get a chance to gain space control again.
Hmm i mean i guess you could be waste a bar on a d1...hmmm

Man catwomen and super girl online...is this real life...? lol damn those match ups...super girl has range, lasers, online tele....come one

And catwomens jump whip goes THROUGH db2 wall...
 

sars

Noob
Hmm i might have to try that again normally i just get hit out of the animation


Hmm i mean i guess you could be waste a bar on a d1...hmmm

Man catwomen and super girl online...is this real life...? lol damn those match ups...super girl has range, lasers, online tele....come one

And catwomens jump whip goes THROUGH db2 wall...
Didn't know we were talking about just d1 or random button presses. My bad
 

Tanno

The Fantasy is the Reality of the Mind
Another question: should i not be playing him as a zoner? I tend to a bit and only start doing strings etc when ppl start to get close and or get passed death chicle obstacles....am i kind of playing him wrong or?
He's a unique zoner. His ice powers only slow and destroy the opponent, and then after 3 secs they freeze him. His snowstorm dome (F4 - lvl 2 trait) slows down the juggle, so use it at the corner or in any middle combos. Use them between the iceshots (BF1) and the icicles (DF2). You can use the MB Wall to kick them away from you (useful against the CQC dudes and some of the zoners).

For the record i can NOT doing anything against ppl pressing buttons in this game....its usually low profile, d1 it interrupt then d2 or something like that...ive also seen some characters literally special through the wall as a meaty....
His D1 and D2 are canceable into MB BF, Wall, and Iceshot. Best option would be to use the D1xxMB Wall to force them away from you. If you happen to do D2 on them, then use any punishing combo, like this one: B232xxMB BF, DF2B (Close Icicle), F3, B232xxCharge (Hold 4).

Edit: Forgot to add that the best AA is the D2. It even kills any diving attack.
 
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Zoidberg747

My blades will find your heart
Thanks and Excellent stuff guys! ill try to incorporate that into the routine!

Another question: should i not be playing him as a zoner? I tend to a bit and only start doing strings etc when ppl start to get close and or get passed death chicle obstacles....am i kind of playing him wrong or?
Considering he's really meter reliant I think you almost have to zone at least a little bit to try and build some meter. Plus all it takes is one icicle trade or read and you can charge your trait a bit.

Only problem is some characters will shut his zoning down hard and you pretty much have to go in (Ivy for example). It all depends on the MU.
 

BanTheTesters

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Ah ok, been having trouble in the neutral..f2 doesn't seem like its cutting it...still not sure what string to open ppl up with really..

I have a habit of trying 122 and then trying f2 and someone just hitting buttons etc...but yep correct people shut down his zoning a bit hard sometimes...hard to get stuff started
 

RiBBz22

TYM's Confirmed Prophet/Time-Traveler
Thanks and Excellent stuff guys! ill try to incorporate that into the routine!

Another question: should i not be playing him as a zoner? I tend to a bit and only start doing strings etc when ppl start to get close and or get passed death chicle obstacles....am i kind of playing him wrong or?
you want to play heavy keep out against rushdown characters with cold. Frustrate them with your traps and bait them with trait taps and force them into a mistake. Sounds like you are doing it right to me. Basically any character that can keep cold from using his tools completely shut down his game IMO and there are a ton of chars in this game that do that. IMO Cold is an awesome char, but just in the wrong game.
 

The Gabriel

Mean Man
His D1 and D2 are canceable into MB BF, Wall, and Iceshot. Best option would be to use the D1xxMB Wall to force them away from you. If you happen to do D2 on them, then use any punishing combo, like this one: B232xxMB BF, DF2B (Close Icicle), F3, B232xxCharge (Hold 4).

Edit: Forgot to add that the best AA is the D2. It even kills any diving attack.
D1 may be canceable into BF but it certainly is not cancellable into it.
 

Tanno

The Fantasy is the Reality of the Mind
D1 may be canceable into BF but it certainly is not cancellable into it.
Sorry, but this phrase seems a bit contradictory there. What's not certainly canceable into it? The D1? AFAK, D3 is certainly not canceable into anything. :S
 

Tanno

The Fantasy is the Reality of the Mind
I was making fun of your spelling. D1 is not cancellable into BF.
Are you sure it's not cancellable into BF? For me it's similar to Sub's D4xxIK, so it's fine. ;)

If it wasn't cancellable, I wouldn't add it anywhere near the battle. It's cancellable, but its frames are way late to cancel it earlier. ;)