The World Has No More Room For Monsters: Swamp Thing General Discussion

1man3letters · May 15, 2017

EMPEROR_KNICKS said:
a tick throw that combos on blck and hit

whats this?
heard it said d2~GT worked but someone in the discord that has the game atm said it doesnt work

D. R. · May 15, 2017

1man3letters said:
whats this?
heard it said d2~GT worked but someone in the discord that has the game atm said it doesnt work

D2~GT raw often whiffs.

J1, d2~GT works. If it crosses up you get d2~Tree, which is -8 if blocked and can be MB. On hit j1, d2~tree, d1~GT works.

1man3letters · May 15, 2017

D. R. said:
J1, d2~GT works. If it crosses up you get d2~Tree, which is -8 if blocked and can be MB. On hit j1, d2~tree, d1~GT works.

alright, maaaaaan someone said in discord d2~GT doesnt combo as a cancel on hit,
so atm im left with either it doesnt work on some chars, only works corner, only works from a jip for pure touching distance or he was just wrong. d1~GT works after a jip on hit? thats weird
i cant wait till tomorrow when i have the game and can just test things myself haha

D. R. · May 15, 2017

1man3letters said:
alright, maaaaaan someone said in discord d2~GT doesnt combo as a cancel on hit,
so atm im left with either it doesnt work on some chars, only works corner, only works from a jip for pure touching distance or he was just wrong. d1~GT works after a jip on hit? thats weird
i cant wait till tomorrow when i have the game and can just test things myself haha

Give me like 30 minutes and I'll throw some stuff together for ST as a primer for everyone.

CrazyFingers · May 15, 2017

D. R. said:
If you'd only read just a little more...

And what wake ups have you tested it against? The only viable option I've found to set up trait is essentially end a combo in MBdb2, d2~trait, then cross up j1 into whatever since it reverses inputs. Trait recovers too slow to set up otherwise and you're forced to block or burn a bar on f3 armor which means you're trying to set up trait with two bars. Also it goes away on push block.

So how is it God tier again?

So since YOU didn't find anything with it, it's bad? Sound logic.

EMPEROR_KNICKS · May 15, 2017

1man3letters said:
whats this?
heard it said d2~GT worked but someone in the discord that has the game atm said it doesnt work

On meaty it works for examply gt into 2 then dash up d2 gt works

EMPEROR_KNICKS · May 15, 2017

D. R. said:
If you'd only read just a little more...

And what wake ups have you tested it against? The only viable option I've found to set up trait is essentially end a combo in MBdb2, d2~trait, then cross up j1 into whatever since it reverses inputs. Trait recovers too slow to set up otherwise and you're forced to block or burn a bar on f3 armor which means you're trying to set up trait with two bars. Also it goes away on push block.

So how is it God tier again?

you can end your combo in d2 or f23 trait in the corner on oki if think they are gonna wake up you can stuff many wakes up like fates and colds with vine grab if you think they are gonna wake up since it has no hitbox you can also back dash after setting up a trait and either there wakeup will whiff or they will have to walk out and hold vine grab you can dash up green thumb on oki and even when they pushblock it leaves you at a good range for all ur mid and footsie tools to reach

_CHINOCUDEIRO_ · May 15, 2017

What´s ST fastest normal?

P.D: I think the main ST issue is if the clon and MB clon are viable or not against heavy zoners

D. R. · May 15, 2017

Again sorry for the potato quality. The game is locked and will not allow direct upload from the PS4 and I'm not going out of my way to do so. Enjoy the primer.

#prayforday1patch

D. R. · May 15, 2017

_CHINOCUDEIRO_ said:
What´s ST fastest normal?

P.D: I think the main ST issue is if the clon and MB clon are viable or not against heavy zoners

D1 @ 7frames

_CHINOCUDEIRO_ · May 15, 2017

D. R. said:
D1 @ 7frames

Not bad,not bad...

EMPEROR_KNICKS · May 15, 2017

D. R. said:
Again sorry for the potato quality. The game is locked and will not allow direct upload from the PS4 and I'm not going out of my way to do so. Enjoy the primer.

#prayforday1patch

Btw d1 tick is interrubtible by a poke which makes no sense

D. R. · May 15, 2017

EMPEROR_KNICKS said:
Btw d1 tick is interrubtible by a poke which makes no sense

I know all too well man. :-/ The worst is b12 being SO easy to poke in the middle of. Like wtf thought that should be a thing? That string is beyond useless.

EMPEROR_KNICKS · May 15, 2017

D. R. said:
I know all too well man. :-/ The worst is b12 being SO easy to poke in the middle of. Like wtf thought that should be a thing? That string is beyond useless.

Yah i dont even use that much tbh no the worst is xx clone you trade spend a bar and the game says get fuckes

EMPEROR_KNICKS · May 15, 2017

My opinion of swampy is that he does well against rushdown and space control characters and certain zoners rape him

_CHINOCUDEIRO_ · May 15, 2017

EMPEROR_KNICKS said:
My opinion of swampy is that he does well against rushdown and space control characters and certain zoners rape him

The sad thing is that *certain zoners* is 60% of the cast of Inj2.... :confused:

EMPEROR_KNICKS · May 15, 2017

_CHINOCUDEIRO_ said:
The sad thing is that *certain zoners* is 60% of the cast of Inj2....

Its not all like aqua man and blackadam he does alright against

kabelfritz · May 15, 2017

D. R. said:
I know all too well man. :-/ The worst is b12 being SO easy to poke in the middle of. Like wtf thought that should be a thing? That string is beyond useless.

can you not cancel from b1?

D. R. · May 15, 2017

kabelfritz said:
can you not cancel from b1?

Yes.

1man3letters · May 15, 2017

D. R. said:
Again sorry for the potato quality. The game is locked and will not allow direct upload from the PS4 and I'm not going out of my way to do so. Enjoy the primer.

#prayforday1patch

ugh those gaps.....

that double clone corner combo was mega hype though haha

EMPEROR_KNICKS said:
Btw d1 tick is interrubtible by a poke which makes no sense

what? thats dumb
whatever about the jokes of pray for day 1 patch, but fucking hell stick that it a day 1 patch lol

kabelfritz · May 15, 2017

D. R. said:
Yes.

so the string is not that useless when you can mix things up

macro · May 15, 2017

So I know I haven't been that active on the forums as of late, but now with my boi Alec here, I'm about to go in!!!

carrion4worm · May 15, 2017

It's good to hear others with the same concerns. Ughh...too many gaps, slow startups and high throws.
Of the two characters I've played the last two days, he still seems better than Scarecrow, and Swampy has cool combos and easy execution.

1man3letters · May 16, 2017

what u guys doing from background bounces atm?

im just doing bgb,j1,11~vine grab close for 324.42 or bgb,j2,11~close vine grab for 345.82
(combo done on batman)

JnTonioo · May 16, 2017

EMPEROR_KNICKS said:
My opinion of swampy is that he does well against rushdown and space control characters and certain zoners rape him

when ever u on me and u need to find shit im stayin with him no matter the situation

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