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GAV

GAV

Resolution through knowledge and resolve.
Baconlord said:
But posting a video full of gimmicks doesn't change anyone's opinion that you don't know what your talking about. If anything it just confirms it
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You're trying to dismiss me because I posted a video? I must have struck a nerve somewhere.
 
Baconlord

Baconlord

Proud follower of the church of Cetrion
GAV said:
You're trying to dismiss me because I posted a video? I must have struck a nerve somewhere.
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I'm just questioning your argument skills. If someone calls you crazy you don't strip down naked and start dancing in the middle of the discussion as a fun break. It kind of undermines your argument
 
GAV

GAV

Resolution through knowledge and resolve.
Baconlord said:
I'm just questioning your argument skills. If someone calls you crazy you don't strip down naked and start dancing in the middle of the discussion as a fun break. It kind of undermines your argument
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What does this have to do with anything?

Whether you agree or disagree, I say exactly what I think. Whether it hurts or helps me, I speak the truth. There's no ulterior motives involved. Thats not the case with everyone.

I have one filter that I read with and that is are someone's words what they really think or do they serve other motives? When its the latter, I tend to become more hostile because I want to learn from others and trust what they say - but I know that isn't prudent. If @Basic Stupidity knows this game and his proposals are unbalanced, then all I have left to think is that his approach has ulterior motives and that makes me sad.

Taking a break seemed appropriate since the reality is that someone I once trusted I am now questioning his motives. That isn't a happy line of thinking to me.
 
GAV

GAV

Resolution through knowledge and resolve.
Baconlord said:
If anyone here has an ulterior motive and wants to influence the balance of the game then I would question why your using tym as a means to do it
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Because the opinions here are respected. Its a small community devoid of casuals in the eyes of the developers. Its a dark horse source of information for fighting game developers. Those here have a voice. What is said here gets heard.
 
Gesture Required Ahead

Gesture Required Ahead

Get on that hook
GAV said:
There has been no misinformation spread by me. Your bias is showing.
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Bias towards what?!?!?!

You know I can also start using words I don't know: I am dastardedly gobsmacked that your posts give me hepburn.

You start accusing me of lying when you yourself are contradictory. I don't know who's the most cringe-worthy here.
 
Baconlord

Baconlord

Proud follower of the church of Cetrion
GAV said:
Because the opinions here are respected. Its a small community devoid of casuals in the eyes of the developers. Its a dark horse source of information for fighting game developers. Those here have a voice. What is said here gets heard.
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Be honest. Do you think that anyone at ubisoft that has a say in how the game is balanced even knows what tym is?
 
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GAV

GAV

Resolution through knowledge and resolve.
Gesture Required Ahead said:
Bias towards what?!?!?!

You know I can also start using words I don't know: I am dastardedly gobsmacked that your posts give me hepburn.

You start accusing me of lying when you yourself are contradictory. I don't know who's the most cringe-worthy here.
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I didn't address them directly, but I believe your suggestions for nerfs to be heavy-handedly asinine and self-serving.
 
GAV

GAV

Resolution through knowledge and resolve.
Baconlord said:
Be honest. Do you think that anyone at ubisoft that has a say in how the game is balanced even knows what tym is?
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I think that Ubisoft has PR people that are developers in title only and that it is up to 3 people to decide on balance changes and 1 has final say. All it takes is reasonable unison among the opinions here and suggestions will come from the PR people to the three and the one will decide on the levity of our suggestions.
 
CrimsonShadow

CrimsonShadow

Administrator and Community Engineer
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Red Hood MKX said:
Let me be clear it clearly says on that article that at its highest player count for an individual fighting game for honor beats any fighting game ever did you not see the numbers yeah streat fighter probably has the most if you combined all the players for the 25 years street fighter has been out. but as an individual game for honor has the highest player count nothing comes close thats not even counting console numbers
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This is only on steam, and has nothing to do with consoles/arcade where most fighting games are played.
 
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Baconlord

Baconlord

Proud follower of the church of Cetrion
GAV said:
I think that Ubisoft has PR people that are developers in title only and that it is up to 3 people to decide on balance changes and 1 has final say. All it takes is reasonable unison among the opinions here and suggestions will come from the PR people to the three and the one will decide on the levity of our suggestions.
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So do you think any of those 3 people are on tym?
 
Red Hood MKX

Red Hood MKX

Mercenary dog
Basic Stupidity said:
Do you really think I dont understand this game? I am a competitive player I have already won many tournaments in this game. Just yesterday I made $200. I know this game, I know the heros, showing me some youtuber who doesnt understand that there is no way to actually open up a player with orochi that just sits there and blocks is pointless.

orochi's zone is reactable 15 frames, his top light reactable 15 frames, his feints end at 15 frames but theres no point if the opponent doesnt go for parry.
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As someone who played basic Stupidity before i can vouche for him and say he is a really good player best i played so far in this game and he knows what he is talking about. That being said everyone is a bit biased with the characters they like. i am basic is Gav is, there is no problem with that you just have to realize that and be reasonable with whatever suggestions you have for your character your playing.
 
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Red Hood MKX

Red Hood MKX

Mercenary dog
CrimsonShadow said:
This is only on steam, and has nothing to do with consoles/arcade where most fighting games are played.
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Dude ok whatever who gives a fuck ill still play the game even if no one played it or if its the most popular game in the world i dont care. i just mentioned and article i saw and people like you got butt hurt for some reason get over it
 
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GAV

GAV

Resolution through knowledge and resolve.
This game is a fighting game, but its not just that. Its also a MOBA...
 
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Gesture Required Ahead

Gesture Required Ahead

Get on that hook
GAV said:
I didn't address them directly, but I believe your suggestions for nerfs to be heavy-handedly asinine and self-serving.
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Self-serving? So benefitting 75% of the cast is self-serving?
Would you prefer these "fair suggestions" instead: remove everyone but PK, WL and Conq from the game to achieve perfect balance among the roster
 
GAV

GAV

Resolution through knowledge and resolve.
Gesture Required Ahead said:
Self-serving? So benefitting 75% of the cast is self-serving?
Would you prefer these "fair suggestions" instead: remove everyone but PK, WL and Conq from the game to achieve perfect balance among the roster
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What I want is well enough to be left alone.

I don't want heavy-handed nerfs because the game is too new and it would alienate players. Even the best players see this game through established fighter eyes and this game is different. There is no clear vision yet. The best way is to give the low tiers new tools to work with rather than nerfing the high tiers.
 
EntropicByDesign

EntropicByDesign

It's all so very confusing.
Ubisoft doesnt make changes based on what we think or say. They dont know we exist. Hell, NRS doesnt pay real attention to this site and its dedicated to MKX.

Ubisoft makes absolutely NO changes based on anything outside internal data and its effect on sales. If Ubi could make a change that would annihilate the competitive scene, but guaranteed more money through the casual crowd, they'd kill us in a heart beat. The 'hardcore' scene drives sales and interest via tournaments, but if more money is to be made elsewhere, they will leave us to dangle and not care one iota.

Honestly man, you're delusional if you think anyone lurks here and pays one fuck of attention.. WHY would they? the top players of their game arent here, fuck, the top players of MKX are *barely* here. That's like saying the SFV devs lurk the SFV thread and give one fuck in a thousand what's said there.

If you think a random, extra thread with like 6 active members drives Ubisoft decision making, then whatever you're taking has got to be WAY better than what Im taking and I want some for myself.
 
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Basic Stupidity

Noob
GAV said:
Conq has no unreactable move. All you have to do is dash in any direction. PK's unreactables are not only faster, but you must defend them appropriately. Your argument has shifted to you're good, so trust you.

I trust your knowledge, not your motives.
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This is completely false and I don't know why you keep saying it. The actual shield bash not including the dash is 15 frames which is unreactable considering how slow dashes are. It is the exact same speed as warlords head butt but warlords is completely punishable. Don't you see the problem in this?
 
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