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Question - Mournful Is ex glaive having less block adv going to affect her game?

champdee

Noob
I always thought she coulda used some help more than nerfs I mean, like, shes what.. mid tier at best? prbly lower? Anyway calling all mournful specialist or that play her high lvl, will this affect her game? Like, what if its like u cant do exglaive then 212~glaive etc right? That'd suck, and was one of the reasons she was so fun. AND they opions a lott more than u did against tanya for example

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Scott The Scot

Where there is smoke, there is cancer.
I don't play Mourful at all, but it appears to me that they're looking to get rid of super plus on block special moves that you can just throw out to continue pressure that jails/loops/leads to some sort of mixup. Lao's hat, Erron's nade, Tanya's tonfa etc. At least Mourful isn't getting singled out, I guess.
 
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evolution07

It's too soon to get cocky.
The thing with it before was that it jailed if you used 212, ex glaives and repeated the sequence, much like Tanya's b12 ex Tonfa.
 

Airvidal

"You play weird" It's called being unorthodox ;)
The thing with it before was that it jailed if you used 212, ex glaives and repeated the sequence, much like Tanya's b12 ex Tonfa.
No it didn't.

But to answer the OP, I don't think it actually changes anything. It actually makes it easier for your opponent to armour through, me blocking and then punishing.

Although, I think I won't be able to punish on a read when they try back dashing anymore...that I don't like.
 

xKhaoTik

The Ignore Button Is Free
No it didn't.

But to answer the OP, I don't think it actually changes anything. It actually makes it easier for your opponent to armour through, me blocking and then punishing.

Although, I think I won't be able to punish on a read when they try back dashing anymore...that I don't like.
Yes it did. 212 ex glaive jailed on everyone. It then got nerfed but certain characters were still jailed.

Now it won't jail on anyone anymore. It still being plus tho it still a good thing. We might be able to continue 212 if they don't have meter
 

Airvidal

"You play weird" It's called being unorthodox ;)
Yes it did. 212 ex glaive jailed on everyone. It then got nerfed but certain characters were still jailed.

Now it won't jail on anyone anymore. It still being plus tho it still a good thing. We might be able to continue 212 if they don't have meter
I don't think he meant back then, neither did I. But if it still jailed on selected few, then that was an issue
 

Laos_boy

Meow Hoes
Its fine. The meta was alreasy evolving to where it didnt een use it for pressure.
I used it for armor baits and to get in.

But i wish they got rid of the gap during the glaives even though we can armor break.
 

xKhaoTik

The Ignore Button Is Free
I don't think he meant back then, neither did I. But if it still jailed on selected few, then that was an issue
O I agree. I'm fine with the nerf honestly. Still a mindgame and I already had the mindset of people armoring it when I use it now.
 

champdee

Noob
yeah, pretty much everyone can backdash it on the way back/armor that I've played, I dunno man hopefully yea u can still 212 etc or bait.. It's the most fun mind game to me in the game to me and I'm kinda like "what? why? she's not that good" she's kinda like tanya light but fair... Hopefully it's still good and useful.. I guess we'll need to see the frame data to really know right? Trying to stay positive. :-/
 

champdee

Noob
No it didn't.

But to answer the OP, I don't think it actually changes anything. It actually makes it easier for your opponent to armour through, me blocking and then punishing.

Although, I think I won't be able to punish on a read when they try back dashing anymore...that I don't like.
Yeah I really hope it's not like that
 

champdee

Noob
I don't play Mourful at all, but it appears to me that they're looking to get rid of super plus on block special moves that you can just throw out to continue pressure that jails/loops/leads to some sort of mixup. Lao's hat, Erron's nade, Tanya's tonfa etc. At least Mourful isn't getting singled out, I guess.
I hear you, but the thing is the startup on ex glaive is a lot, so it has me like whaat
 
Its fine. The meta was alreasy evolving to where it didnt een use it for pressure.
I used it for armor baits and to get in.

But i wish they got rid of the gap during the glaives even though we can armor break.

I am new. Can you explain to me what armor baiting is and give an example?
 

champdee

Noob
dude this change has absolutely killed the character... I don't get it... why would you touch something not broke? b4 the change you could backdash it on way back, armor out, AND even then your spending mad bar for what, some chip and maybe a throw? I've never been this mad before... they made her into a "zoner" now and she's def not even close to the best one... IT REALLY MAKES NO SENSE. @colt cmon man, ex g;laive startup slightly increased and same block/hitstun of ex glaive as before, she was sooo fair!!...shes like bottom 5 now.
 

Nexallus

From Takeda to Robin
dude this change has absolutely killed the character... I don't get it... why would you touch something not broke? b4 the change you could backdash it on way back, armor out, AND even then your spending mad bar for what, some chip and maybe a throw? I've never been this mad before... they made her into a "zoner" now and she's def not even close to the best one... IT REALLY MAKES NO SENSE. @colt cmon man, ex g;laive startup slightly increased and same block/hitstun of ex glaive as before, she was sooo fair!!...shes like bottom 5 now.
I hope they give her something different in return then I guess. I always wanted to try this variation because I do like Kitana and these weapon designs, but it just always seemed so...weird to me.

I could never get the hang of this variation in play sadly :(
 

evolution07

It's too soon to get cocky.
Mournful is fine. I was using her today without much of a problem. If you read the opponent is gonna do any type of escape after ex glaive, bait and punish.
 
Mournful is fine. I was using her today without much of a problem. If you read the opponent is gonna do any type of escape after ex glaive, bait and punish.
This being exactly the reason why i love those nerfs to anything that jails, wich i perceive as boring anyway. It adds another level of mindgames to either continue the blockstring and getting armored or you baiting the armor to get a full combo punish. Way more interesting than mindlessly jailing someone if you ask me
 

champdee

Noob
alright so, in this version of the game... I like her but obvioiusly bf3 having no armor hurts her the nmost outta all the variants (shoulda just make it like ermacs, armor on wu, otherwise no) Anyway I what is she? a 24s glaive zoning character/sorta rushdown hybrid? These are just thoughts and I've been in the lab quite a bit and havn't found any new combos really besides somewhat useless ones.

Regardless,please... we need to advance this character... oh, and if your ex glaiving to get in they can A, armor, B, poke u, C. backdash (which a a and c they could already do. Anyway we need a mournful only como thread, srats, etc... I got some stuff to share... im playing atm, so i'll try to compile somesort of thing for everyone
 

champdee

Noob
No it didn't.

But to answer the OP, I don't think it actually changes anything. It actually makes it easier for your opponent to armour through, me blocking and then punishing.

Although, I think I won't be able to punish on a read when they try back dashing anymore...that I don't like.



If they get hit from across the screen, and u try to run in for a 29-30% combo FOR a bar, they can poke you.. if you noticed this.. then the meta is u can jump over punch b14~exglaive or b14~lift for meterless.. I think it's a dumb nerf honestly, kung jin's ex charkram he get garenteed damage because he dive kicks in, and I believe kung laos hat trick he gets a combo too, I have not tested but I know 6f poke work even up close on mournfuls sucessfully ex glaive hit
 

Airvidal

"You play weird" It's called being unorthodox ;)
Was this your reply?:

"If they get hit from across the screen, and u try to run in for a 29-30% combo FOR a bar, they can poke you.. if you noticed this.. then the meta is u can jump over punch b14~exglaive or b14~lift for meterless.. I think it's a dumb nerf honestly, kung jin's ex charkram he get garenteed damage because he dive kicks in, and I believe kung laos hat trick he gets a combo too, I have not tested but I know 6f poke work even up close on mournfuls sucessfully ex glaive hit"

If it is, I'm not sure what you mean.
 

SM StarGazer

The voice of reason in a Sea of Salt
She needs a StaffGrab Brutalilty. Period.

Other then that loopable pressure is dumb but for a bar I guess its okay. Most armored moves blow through any attempt so you have to respect that while also going in every now and then. Mournful is a speed changing demon. Your goal is to control pacing. Burst damagr and solid fotties into burst damage into chip. Thats her game.