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Damaja325

Damaja325

Stylin' & Low Profilin'
I'm always hearing ppl say that Mileena is a nightmare mu for the borgs. Though i'm not sure what it is that makes it so. I don't own the dlc so i can't lab so any xp i get is from finding randoms online. The main thing i hear is that she low profiles their mids, but i think thats not something only triborg suffers from. I need specifics for each variant of borg. What should i be exploiting to make things hell for this character? I'd say i'm most familiar with smoke and sektor but even then i feel like i'm giving too much respect. Smoke seems the most straight forward to me because he just mixes all day. Sektor im not sure what to do about his missiles. When cyrax/csz throw the bombs out i just freeze up. Sorry if i sound too vague, my knowledge of each variation is limited. So yeah, any mu specific details you guys can offer would be greatly appreciated.
 
rubmytaco

rubmytaco

CarriedByClone
Damaja325 said:
I'm always hearing ppl say that Mileena is a nightmare mu for the borgs. Though i'm not sure what it is that makes it so. I don't own the dlc so i can't lab so any xp i get is from finding randoms online. The main thing i hear is that she low profiles their mids, but i think thats not something only triborg suffers from. I need specifics for each variant of borg. What should i be exploiting to make things hell for this character? I'd say i'm most familiar with smoke and sektor but even then i feel like i'm giving too much respect. Smoke seems the most straight forward to me because he just mixes all day. Sektor im not sure what to do about his missiles. When cyrax/csz throw the bombs out i just freeze up. Sorry if i sound too vague, my knowledge of each variation is limited. So yeah, any mu specific details you guys can offer would be greatly appreciated.
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She can roll just about everything they throw at her.
 
TyCarter35

TyCarter35

Bonafide Jax scrub
Not sure about now tho. Before @Vigilante24 found out Triborg's 21 stuffs her roll on oki it was due to her ability to low profile mids. What Mileena still has over the borgs is zoning outside of sektor since most of them can't reaction teleport nor have counter zoning options
 
Vigilante24

Vigilante24

Beware my power, Red Lantern's Light
Mileena can mash away for free cuz she low profile his mids as well as 2 of his pokes with d3 and roll meaning he loses badly up close. There has been times where in +2 as CSZ and her d3 beats my d1 cuz she low profiles it. Thats stupid...

Its near difficult to counterzone her cuz of sais and threat of teleport. Mileena can pretty much disrespect and not care about Cyrax anywhere on the screen. She rolls out of Sektors up missle setups free taking away a huge part of his game. Cyber Sub just sucks...

Smoke is the only one that can hang with Mileena due to a better mid game, he cannot be locked down, and of course... the MIX!

I did however discover that Triborg universally can stuff meterless ball roll wakeups and break armor on ex ball roll in the corner meaning she has 0 wakeup options in the corner vs him unless its Ethereal. I posted a thread about it in the CSZ forums.
 
Tweedy

Tweedy

Noob
Saying that the whole cast suffers from her roll and D3 low profiling, doesn't make it any less good. That's why she's top 5 free imo, along with her other tools.
 
Karma

Karma

Soul Caliber, Tekken, Mortal Kombat, and SF.
Smoke's phase and ranges is the real problem to Mileena's neutral game.
 
God Confirm

God Confirm

We're all from Earthrealm. If not, cool pic brah.
Ball roll is basically a meterless invincible launcher vs Smoke and also covers a bunch of ground. It is basically a tool so good that it makes pre-patch Lao's armored Spin launcher look bad in comparison. She has a ridiculous advantage in this MU
 
God Confirm

God Confirm

We're all from Earthrealm. If not, cool pic brah.
CrazyFingers said:
Fixed it for ya
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No, you didn't fix it, you just made it incorrect. I've played almost everyone in the game, and while most people get dumb shit profiled by ball, please tell me how many of them have no button that beats reversal ball even when she is -6? Almost everyone still has a button that beats it. Best Smoke can do is TRADE by using a D3, and that still launches him for combo by Mileena. Ball might be dumb against everyone, but it's even worse vs Triborg.
 
Invincible Salads

Invincible Salads

Seeker of knowledge
Vigilante24 said:
Mileena can mash away for free cuz she low profile his mids as well as 2 of his pokes with d3 and roll meaning he loses badly up close. There has been times where in +2 as CSZ and her d3 beats my d1 cuz she low profiles it. Thats stupid...

Its near difficult to counterzone her cuz of sais and threat of teleport. Mileena can pretty much disrespect and not care about Cyrax anywhere on the screen. She rolls out of Sektors up missle setups free taking away a huge part of his game. Cyber Sub just sucks...

Smoke is the only one that can hang with Mileena due to a better mid game, he cannot be locked down, and of course... the MIX!

I did however discover that Triborg universally can stuff meterless ball roll wakeups and break armor on ex ball roll in the corner meaning she has 0 wakeup options in the corner vs him unless its Ethereal. I posted a thread about it in the CSZ forums.
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how does triborg stuff her wakeups
 
Cashual

Cashual

PSN: Cansuela
Mileena is the best character in this game and it's not close. At this point as a kitana main, when I see someone pick mileena I quit and take the L. What can mileena not do? Even reliably punishing tele kick and air sai is a fool's errand with anything other than d2. Dumb ass design. What about tele kick makes it that it should be difficult to punish?

The character is so fucking dumb with the jump ins, the d3s, the roll with the best priority in the game, good damage, a usable X-ray, meter build, always has breaker, armor breaking, low profiling and weird hitbox issues in general, command grab game in ravenous, the mobility in ethereal, the low projectile in piercing and the fast recovering projectile in all variations, the anti airing, pick your side and screen position combos.....

The character is fucking ridiculous and the mileena downplay since she was "nerfed" is hilarious.

Some talented players use her and I'm taking nothing from semiij or foxy or saltface, because those guys are damn good, but fuck me that character is dumb.
 
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T-box88

Noob
Invincible Salads said:
how does triborg stuff her wakeups
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He doesnt, its why its hard, we have to respect her every time on wu. It sucks. She doesnt need meter in this mu to play good defense against him, allowing her to save it for her 50/50's and breaker if needed. D3 might be the only decently safe tool to pressure her on wu with. But then again, im not sure ball roll goes under that too. Wouldnt surprise me anyway.
 
Snibbor

Snibbor

Yarrrr Matey
Cashual

Cashual

PSN: Cansuela
Cashual said:
Mileena is the best character in this game and it's not close. At this point as a kitana main, when I see someone pick mileena I quit and take the L. What can mileena not do? Even reliably punishing tele kick and air sai is a fool's errand with anything other than d2. Dumb ass design. What about tele kick makes it that it should be difficult to punish?

The character is so fucking dumb with the jump ins, the d3s, the roll with the best priority in the game, good damage, a usable X-ray, meter build, always has breaker, armor breaking, low profiling and weird hitbox issues in general, command grab game in ravenous, the mobility in ethereal, the low projectile in piercing and the fast recovering projectile in all variations, the anti airing, pick your side and screen position combos.....

The character is fucking ridiculous and the mileena downplay since she was "nerfed" is hilarious.

Some talented players use her and I'm taking nothing from semiij or foxy or saltface, because those guys are damn good, but fuck me that character is dumb.
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Hahahaha I forgot I made this post. Holy shit the salt was very very real!!!

Embarrassing :confused:
 
Vigilante24

Vigilante24

Beware my power, Red Lantern's Light
T-box88 said:
Thats weird, cuz im sure s2 is a high.
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Scorpion's s2 also stuffs raw roll wakeup. This isnt really all that new tbh.

I was the one who made that discovery and made that thread as I am a CSZ player but applies to Triborg universally. Vs the variations not Ethereal, Triborg can disrespect her wakeup. 21 stuffs it and breaks ex roll easy. Thats all Triborg has over Mileena. I would still much rather choose my Tempest vs Mileena over any Triborg variation.
 
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T-box88

Noob
Vigilante24 said:
Scorpion's s2 also stuffs raw roll wakeup. This isnt really all that new tbh.

I was the one who made that discovery and made that thread as I am a CSZ player but applies to Triborg universally. Vs the variations not Ethereal, Triborg can disrespect her wakeup. 21 stuffs it and breaks ex roll easy. Thats all Triborg has over Mileena. I would still much rather choose my Tempest vs Mileena over any Triborg variation.
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Jad no idea lol. Thanks for the info
 
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