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Match-Up Discussion - Kitana The Royal Family - Match Up Discussion/Character Specific Strats

Relentless. Red screen and that damage buff bone me.
if you see red screen: press u2. it can never be an uppercut, it can only be d1, d3 or d4. Can Jason block after he uses the red screen? ( I don't remember so). You can throw out fan/glaive, throat slice or parry/shadow kick at him to stop the red screen
 

ABake

Bum Kitana Main
if you see red screen: press u2. it can never be an uppercut, it can only be d1, d3 or d4. Can Jason block after he uses the red screen? ( I don't remember so). You can throw out fan/glaive, throat slice or parry/shadow kick at him to stop the red screen
The red screen is never just thrown out to where I could still get a fan or another special out, it always comes by way of a safe HKD set up, so that it's completely activated by the time I can input a wake up.

I'll keep the u2 in mind, and just pray it's not d3 or d4 that comes out. Jason's advancing mid string usually shuts all of that down off range alone. I usually hit u,f, 3/4 an hope I get a special that hits. Works sometimes, but not enough to make it a solid strat.

P.S. Yes, Jason can block in red screen.
 

Kooron Nation

More Ass and Tits for MK11
@xKhaoTik had a 30 game set last night against a good royal storm player and got destroyed. I played Mileena and was using Ethereal and seriously having a really hard time. Especially in the corner, she would do strings into rising fan, float, fan, then continue her pressure. I couldn't fade through it since the rising fan pushes her back out of range and I just appear in front of her and get whiff punished. I was spamming reversal ball roll to get out too but it wouldn't come out, so is it a block string? She builds so much meter that it feels like she can just loop this pressure endlessly.

Midscreen she keeps me out really well with the fan-nado and f2 string into float, fan, then continues to zone. I can negotiate through the zoning quite well but I kept getting caught neutral ducking by her fan-nado then full 3minute combo back into full screen. Plus her ass is safe and armoured and a really good get off me tool. Her fans recover too fast for me to telekick on reaction. Also kept me from AA her with her floats. Is float, njp, B3 a block string? Because I'd block the NJP but then got clipped by the B3 cause I tried to press a button?

Is it better to just use Piercing only for Kitana MU? Any help would be appreciated since I was seriously extremely frustrated and now officially hate versing Kitana.
 

xKhaoTik

The Ignore Button Is Free
@xKhaoTik had a 30 game set last night against a good royal storm player and got destroyed. I played Mileena and was using Ethereal and seriously having a really hard time. Especially in the corner, she would do strings into rising fan, float, fan, then continue her pressure. I couldn't fade through it since the rising fan pushes her back out of range and I just appear in front of her and get whiff punished. I was spamming reversal ball roll to get out too but it wouldn't come out, so is it a block string? She builds so much meter that it feels like she can just loop this pressure endlessly.

Midscreen she keeps me out really well with the fan-nado and f2 string into float, fan, then continues to zone. I can negotiate through the zoning quite well but I kept getting caught neutral ducking by her fan-nado then full 3minute combo back into full screen. Plus her ass is safe and armoured and a really good get off me tool. Her fans recover too fast for me to telekick on reaction. Also kept me from AA her with her floats. Is float, njp, B3 a block string? Because I'd block the NJP but then got clipped by the B3 cause I tried to press a button?

Is it better to just use Piercing only for Kitana MU? Any help would be appreciated since I was seriously extremely frustrated and now officially hate versing Kitana.

I don't feel like Kitana should be destroying mileena at all. I have it as an even MU, but I would say piercing is the best variation against her since she zones her out better and has good footsies.

Float into fan shouldn't even be a thing. Air fan is extremely punishable on block and whiff. Just roll every time. Even if she does f22u4, roll. F22u4 float, roll. F22u4 fan/float fan, roll. Works every time

Rising blades into float however is pretty legit. If you block it standing, she can jail into a JP and she can start her pressure again. The timing for the JP to jail is strict tho so you can definitely challenge it with backlash, roll or armor. Crouch blocking it makes rising blades into float more unsafe and she can't make JP jail.

You shouldn't be outzoned at all. You're mileena, one of the best anti zoners in the game with decent zoning as well. Establish your zoning first. Who cares if Kitana has a reflect? You recover from sai quick enough to duck the reflection. You can even bait a reflect and get your teleports or rolls in. If Kitana is throwing fans, don't be afraid to roll or teleport. Yea they're unsafe but it's still a major threat for her since both can start combos. If you wanna play it safe then you can just walk and duck the fans. Fan nado could be a problem upclose since it's kinda hard to react to fan or fan nado upclose but outside of sweep range, you should be fine. Ass isn't safe at all. You can punish with almost anything you have. The block stun makes it a little wonky but you can definitely punish. If all else fails, just roll. Ass is only safe if done full screen and immediately when she's off the ground from a jump.

After a NJP, Kitana shouldn't be getting away with b3. You can definitely challenge that. D1, roll, armor, w.e. B3 just shouldn't be a thing after that.

Mileena is pretty unpredictable and can start combos whenever and wherever she wants. Remember that and use that to your advantage. She builds meter just a quick as Kitana, maybe even quicker
 

Kooron Nation

More Ass and Tits for MK11
@xKhaoTik thanks heaps for the detailed response man will lab everything you've said.

Is it possible for Kitana to do JP instead of NJP after a regular float? Maybe that's what it was cause I swear I couldn't interrupt her after she landed from the NJP? I played the MU again last night as Piercing and did better, baited her to do the reflect then Tele-kick while she's doing it. Her JIP is pretty solid too, got caught trying to AA pretty often when she would cross-up, it's so hard to time the AA sometimes with the unpredictable float, so annoying lol.

But yeah thanks again, I'll keep trying to git gud
 

Cashual

PSN: Cansuela
It's interesting I really struggle against Mileena for all the reasons khaotik stated. I guess I thought the MU was in mileena's favor but I'm not that good so I am not sure
 

xKhaoTik

The Ignore Button Is Free
@xKhaoTik thanks heaps for the detailed response man will lab everything you've said.

Is it possible for Kitana to do JP instead of NJP after a regular float? Maybe that's what it was cause I swear I couldn't interrupt her after she landed from the NJP? I played the MU again last night as Piercing and did better, baited her to do the reflect then Tele-kick while she's doing it. Her JIP is pretty solid too, got caught trying to AA pretty often when she would cross-up, it's so hard to time the AA sometimes with the unpredictable float, so annoying lol.

But yeah thanks again, I'll keep trying to git gud
Yea she can do JP after float, so now it makes sense why b3 was working.