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Kroaken

Kroaken

Life is a block string with no gaps.
Ryu looks like he'll be more like necalli. Vtrig is his threat mode.

Bison looks interesting. I think he'll be more hype if nothing else with some possible combo creaticity once fireball charged.

Sim looks terrifying.

I don't understand why they normalized Nash. Taking away his "thing" and making him more similar to a shoto.

Guile berffffffs.

Happy with what I've heard for gief. Will still like something buffed in regards to his V system.

Not sure that MUCH will change for alex. He has a meterless combo off fwd lariat now I guess. Doesn't change much.

Chun is still going to be good. Glad to see her crazy stuff nerfed tho.

Fang... still needs more poison damage. His Vtrigger buff doesn't mean much imo. His normals are built in such a way as to give him time for charge. I guess it could help with fireball/mine zoning... kinda. Because he can build charge for the next fireball while doing one.

Urien is looking strong. Glad to see it.

I hope the ibuki stuff is true. She needs it.

And goodbye throw loops. You won't be missed... well rushdown will miss you i guess. That's about it tho.
 
JJvercetti

JJvercetti

Noob
Kroaken said:
Ryu looks like he'll be more like necalli. Vtrig is his threat mode.

Bison looks interesting. I think he'll be more hype if nothing else with some possible combo creaticity once fireball charged.

Sim looks terrifying.

I don't understand why they normalized Nash. Taking away his "thing" and making him more similar to a shoto.

Guile berffffffs.

Happy with what I've heard for gief. Will still like something buffed in regards to his V system.

Not sure that MUCH will change for alex. He has a meterless combo off fwd lariat now I guess. Doesn't change much.

Chun is still going to be good. Glad to see her crazy stuff nerfed tho.

Fang... still needs more poison damage. His Vtrigger buff doesn't mean much imo. His normals are built in such a way as to give him time for charge. I guess it could help with fireball/mine zoning... kinda. Because he can build charge for the next fireball while doing one.

Urien is looking strong. Glad to see it.

I hope the ibuki stuff is true. She needs it.

And goodbye throw loops. You won't be missed... well rushdown will miss you i guess. That's about it tho.
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Honestly if that is the only change Gief gets then I am actually happy.
 
Kroaken

Kroaken

Life is a block string with no gaps.
JJvercetti said:
Honestly if that is the only change Gief gets then I am actually happy.
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Hear me out. Tell me what you think.

What if:
1.)v skill stored damage taken and returned it as more damage on next spd unless you take an actual hit (like mika I think)
Or
2.) Grey health taken from vskilling was healed upon hitting the opponent with said that particular vskill (wouldn't work like full screen fireball absorbing)

I personally like the first one. You could absorb a fireball and threaten an extra powerful spd as you approached. And you'd be more rewarded for trying to parry and punish things like dash punch or step kick.

I think they would both fit the theme of zangief. Without being too strong. Thoughts?
 
JJvercetti

JJvercetti

Noob
Kroaken said:
Hear me out. Tell me what you think.

What if:
1.)v skill stored damage taken and returned it as more damage on next spd unless you take an actual hit (like mika I think)
Or
2.) Grey health taken from vskilling was healed upon hitting the opponent with said that particular vskill (wouldn't work like full screen fireball absorbing)

I personally like the first one. You could absorb a fireball and threaten an extra powerful spd as you approached. And you'd be more rewarded for trying to parry and punish things like dash punch or step kick.

I think they would both fit the theme of zangief. Without being too strong. Thoughts?
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Im not sure about the 1st one as for this to happen, something would be taken away like range or something but I would prefer that to the second one.
 
Kroaken

Kroaken

Life is a block string with no gaps.
JJvercetti said:
Im not sure about the 1st one as for this to happen, something would be taken away like range or something but I would prefer that to the second one.
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Just spit balling. Can't sleep. Well... a 50% reduction on dmg taken to white life during vskill would be nice at least. Really doesn't feel good taking all that damage. Iron body...

Lol my favorite is.. well gief has extra health to help him get in. Yo it's like 50 more than ryu. He takes like two jabs more than avg char.

I don't (yet) main gief so I like to think I'm unbiased.
 
JJvercetti

JJvercetti

Noob
Scott The Scot said:
PC Juri players rejoice
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Holy crap, my ears are bleeding now.

Kroaken said:
Just spit balling. Can't sleep. Well... a 50% reduction on dmg taken to white life during vskill would be nice at least. Really doesn't feel good taking all that damage. Iron body...

Lol my favorite is.. well gief has extra health to help him get in. Yo it's like 50 more than ryu. He takes like two jabs more than avg char.

I don't (yet) main gief so I like to think I'm unbiased.
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I get that all the time man, its funny as hell to hear that. As for the 50% white health, this suggestion has been thrown around since the release and I think it would be probably the most useful.
 
CrazyFingers

CrazyFingers

The Power of Lame Compels You
Kroaken said:
Ryu looks like he'll be more like necalli. Vtrig is his threat mode.

Bison looks interesting. I think he'll be more hype if nothing else with some possible combo creaticity once fireball charged.

Sim looks terrifying.

I don't understand why they normalized Nash. Taking away his "thing" and making him more similar to a shoto.

Guile berffffffs.

Happy with what I've heard for gief. Will still like something buffed in regards to his V system.

Not sure that MUCH will change for alex. He has a meterless combo off fwd lariat now I guess. Doesn't change much.

Chun is still going to be good. Glad to see her crazy stuff nerfed tho.

Fang... still needs more poison damage. His Vtrigger buff doesn't mean much imo. His normals are built in such a way as to give him time for charge. I guess it could help with fireball/mine zoning... kinda. Because he can build charge for the next fireball while doing one.

Urien is looking strong. Glad to see it.

I hope the ibuki stuff is true. She needs it.

And goodbye throw loops. You won't be missed... well rushdown will miss you i guess. That's about it tho.
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Tell me more about Dhalsim looking terrifying?
 
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Kroaken

Kroaken

Life is a block string with no gaps.
CrazyFingers said:
Tell me more about Dhalsim looking terrifying?
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He was already good imo. Underrated for some reason (hard to master?). Now his normals are looking to be at advantage on blocks, further solidifying his best MUs and strengthening his others.

All of his anti airs have improved. His b.hp one and his b.mp via faster startup. His cr mp via better horizontal hitbox.

His lk is 4 frames down from 5.

Vskill (float) is faster.

Vtrigger no longer gets cancelled by vreversal (aka flame carpet still comes out)

The bulk of it there.
 
Undeadjim

Undeadjim

Green Lantern Corps.
Scott The Scot said:
Guiles LP Boom apparently got nerfed so no more loops. They sped it up slightly.

I'm furious right now.
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You don't use LP boom for loops you use medium into light break. LP boom is just quicker to nerf his zoning slightly by the looks. The nerf to loops is the 2 bar trigger, but overall I think having 2 triggers a round will be a slight buff so we good.
 
Scott The Scot

Scott The Scot

Where there is smoke, there is cancer.
Undeadjim said:
You don't use LP boom for loops you use medium into light break. LP boom is just quicker to nerf his zoning slightly by the looks. The nerf to loops is the 2 bar trigger, but overall I think having 2 triggers a round will be a slight buff so we good.
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The break was what I was talking about, I just made a mistake lol. I heard in a Twitch chat (reliable af source) that the LP break is sped up so that you can't dash in a still get your HP.
 
JJvercetti

JJvercetti

Noob
Undeadjim said:
You don't use LP boom for loops you use medium into light break. LP boom is just quicker to nerf his zoning slightly by the looks. The nerf to loops is the 2 bar trigger, but overall I think having 2 triggers a round will be a slight buff so we good.
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Is Guile's Trigger time reduced or the amount small booms been lessened or something?
 
Undeadjim

Undeadjim

Green Lantern Corps.
JJvercetti said:
Is Guile's Trigger time reduced or the amount small booms been lessened or something?
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Guile has a two bar v trigger now down from three

Scott The Scot said:
The break was what I was talking about, I just made a mistake lol. I heard in a Twitch chat (reliable af source) that the LP break is sped up so that you can't dash in a still get your HP.
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I could swore I saw LP boom not break, but It was in the sea of Twitter so I can't find it. Would suck if the loops go, I means two bar triggers means there reduced, but Capcops might be removing fun again lol
 
FL Rushdown

FL Rushdown

Noob
Kroaken said:
Just spit balling. Can't sleep. Well... a 50% reduction on dmg taken to white life during vskill would be nice at least. Really doesn't feel good taking all that damage. Iron body...

Lol my favorite is.. well gief has extra health to help him get in. Yo it's like 50 more than ryu. He takes like two jabs more than avg char.

I don't (yet) main gief so I like to think I'm unbiased.
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Scaling makes that extra 50 hp into more though. It's actually like an extra 100 ehp.
 
Diego de Souza Costa

Diego de Souza Costa

***The Soul Consuming Darkness***
if we can't get Sagat in season 2 bc, all s2 chars are new to the franchise, then, can they atleast add this dude, as an aggresive Muay Thai fighter (with fireballs ofc) and maybe a command grab, that would look like Sagat's fwd throw ("hey hey hey") ?? pls ??? that would be sick

 
Scott The Scot

Scott The Scot

Where there is smoke, there is cancer.
Undeadjim said:
I could swore I saw LP boom not break, but It was in the sea of Twitter so I can't find it. Would suck if the loops go, I means two bar triggers means there reduced, but Capcops might be removing fun again lol
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I hope that I'm wrong, honestly! Loops are hype and I swear every loop you complete, breaks your opponent mentally a little bit each time. True story.
 
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