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MK_Gorchichka

MK_Gorchichka

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Bruno-NeoSpace said:
There's a new combo that I've seen Mustard (shout-outs to him) using it but he ends it into a simple bomb setup, so, I labbed it and I figured it out that you can end it with the double bomb setup.

It's F4,3 into EX air grab. The old one that I used to do is this one: F4,3 - EX air grab - S4 - net - long air bomb - run - S4 - short air bomb - jump back kick - mid air bomb - D2 - mid ground bomb - NJP - two bombs setup (37%)

The new one: F4,3 - EX air grab - F1 - S4 - net - long air bomb - 1,1,4 - mid air bomb - D2 (maybe you'll need to do a tiny walk backward to do the D2) - mid ground bomb - NJP - two bombs setup (38%)

1% more damage... it's not a huge thing but it's something and the combo it's easier to do. :D
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Hey, Bruno! Nice stiff there. Did you try this on female hitbox? In my case, I tried this combo not once in a lab on Kitana and didn't succeed. If I understand it right, that is the sort of combo that can't be pulled of on female hitbox?
 
Bruno-NeoSpace

Bruno-NeoSpace

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MK_Gorchichka said:
Hey, Bruno! Nice stiff there. Did you try this on female hitbox? In my case, I tried this combo not once in a lab on Kitana and didn't succeed. If I understand it right, that is the sort of combo that can't be pulled of on female hitbox?
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@False God Confirmed @Zionix Ok... that 38% combo is kinda inconsistent because against female characters it does not work, so, you gotta use a long GROUND bomb to do it but it's still kinda inconsistent... so, it's better to use the combo that does 37% and it also work on the corner :D

 
Zionix

Zionix

AKA Ponkster
Bruno-NeoSpace said:
@False God Confirmed @Zionix Ok... that 38% combo is kinda inconsistent because against female characters it does not work, so, you gotta use a long GROUND bomb to do it but it's still kinda inconsistent... so, it's better to use the combo that does 37% and it also work on the corner :D

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I'm going to do the same conversion for ex saw aswell. its just so simple.

I've been going for the HTB and its not been consistant. I'd rather just do this combo and make them deal with the HTB double bombs.
 
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Bruno-NeoSpace

Bruno-NeoSpace

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Zionix said:
I'm going to do the same conversion for ex saw aswell. its just so simple.

I've been going for the HTB and its not been consistant. I'd rather just do this combo and make them deal with the HTB double bombs.
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for the EX saw, this conversion is better: long air bomb - f4,3 - long air bomb - 1,1,1 - short air bomb - walk backward a tiny - 2,1 - mid ground bomb - NJP - two bombs setup or mid ground bomb - NJP - long ground bomb - D2 - two bombs setup (mid and long bomb, another type of two bombs setup)
 
Zionix

Zionix

AKA Ponkster
Bruno-NeoSpace said:
for the EX saw, this conversion is better: long air bomb - f4,3 - long air bomb - 1,1,1 - short air bomb - walk backward a tiny - 2,1 - mid ground bomb - NJP - two bombs setup or mid ground bomb - NJP - long ground bomb - D2 - two bombs setup (mid and long bomb, another type of two bombs setup)
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Thanks a bunch !

Got another video coming shortly.
 
Zionix

Zionix

AKA Ponkster

New video is out.

At the end in the corner just do the conversion i showed but after the uppercut do the close bombs, because they are close to the corner they cant backdash or techroll out anyway.
 
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Bruno-NeoSpace

Bruno-NeoSpace

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Zionix said:

New video is out.

At the end in the corner just do the conversion i showed but after the uppercut do the close bombs, because they are close to the corner they cant backdash or techroll out anyway.
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Hey, that first conversion is good... but sometimes Cyrax's opponent goes over him, so, the NJP into that conversion will not work, so you will need to do another conversion. I have a thread/vid about those conversions, look: https://testyourmight.com/threads/cyraxs-some-new-sequences-and-setups.61829/

So, back to this topic... it's when @False God Confirmed figured it out a conversion that is easier:

False God Confirmed said:
Found the most consistent way to do it is actually delayed run under into 4~close grenade, it hits kinda later than you'd expect if you do it right giving you a great pop-up and plenty of time to convert




I'm still practicing it but seems consistent enough to me, although it is tricky till you get the hang of the run under timing


if you break their armor with this its 41% damage per a loop :O
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About the midscreen BnB: that combo on your video is really good... i did not know about it. And yeah, that BnB using f4,3 into bomb 2 times into 1,1,4 is kinda annoying... that 1,1,4 part is a pain to do on the perfect time :mad:.

So, I'm used to do another BnB that I think it's easier than that one on your vid, it does the same damage and you can do more damage with another type of two bombs setup:

net - long air bomb - f4,3 - long air bomb - f4,3 - long air bomb - 1,1,1 (that is the part the makes the combo a lot easier) - short air bomb - walk backward a tiny - 2,1 - mid ground bomb - NJP - two bombs setup (27%) or mid ground bomb - NJP - long ground bomb - D2 - two bombs setup (28%) (mid and long bomb, another type of two bombs setup)

That net into bomb into f1,3 is very good, i did not know about it :D

Two bombs setup into F2,1... interesting... and if it hits, you can do that conversion into a HTB (NJP - far air bomb, etc)
 
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fr stack

fr stack

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also @Bruno-NeoSpace the bnb using 2 f43's and 114 is very consistent for me , on the second f43 you need to delay until they are head height, your your move will come out at chest height and the rest of the combo just slots together, i dont think ive ever dropped that part my only struggle with this is the god damned dd3 at the double bomb set up i just end up standing there holding my balls !
 
Bruno-NeoSpace

Bruno-NeoSpace

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fr stack said:
also @Bruno-NeoSpace the bnb using 2 f43's and 114 is very consistent for me , on the second f43 you need to delay until they are head height, your your move will come out at chest height and the rest of the combo just slots together, i dont think ive ever dropped that part my only struggle with this is the god damned dd3 at the double bomb set up i just end up standing there holding my balls !
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Yeah, but IDK... On the lab I can do that everytime, but in a real match i miss that 1,1,4 sometimes... :oops:. So, i've been using a diff combo that does a little less damage but it's easier and I can do the same damage of that annoying combo if a decide to do a diff version of two bombs setup :p
 
God Confirm

God Confirm

We're all from Earthrealm. If not, cool pic brah.
i take it back im gunna try dissolve it all in the morning


but damn its hard to work out what it is you showing when you dont quite describe it and just make a video with a lot of things happening
 
Zionix

Zionix

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Bruno-NeoSpace

Bruno-NeoSpace

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Zionix said:
If the opponent floats over the head I just use dd3ex - far bomb - 111 after NJP.

I got those combos from that thread :D
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Yeah :p

But as a said, it's not very consistent because it's very random when your opponent goes over you and the timing to do the short run is very annoying... so, it's better to do the conversion that @False God Confirmed has figured it out. :)
 
God Confirm

God Confirm

We're all from Earthrealm. If not, cool pic brah.
Bruno-NeoSpace said:
@False God Confirmed @Zionix hey guys... look. I did a video showing the best pratical combos and setups of Cyrax :D


Those are the best combos and setups that I've seen untill today. Should I make a thread about them like I did to Dualist? https://www.testyourmight.com/threads/dualists-practical-setups-compilation.60177/
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you are missing a bunch of stuff, like conversions off uppercut tech and other stuff, and your anti-airs are subpar man you can get way more damage into double bomb off a pretty much universal combo
 
Zionix

Zionix

AKA Ponkster
Bruno-NeoSpace said:
@False God Confirmed @Zionix hey guys... look. I did a video showing the best pratical combos and setups of Cyrax :D


Those are the best combos and setups that I've seen untill today. Should I make a thread about them like I did to Dualist? https://www.testyourmight.com/threads/dualists-practical-setups-compilation.60177/
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This is incredible.

Every new Cyrax player should study this and learn it because this is standard required to compete.

Super proud that my tech was included and has some uses :D.
 
Zionix

Zionix

AKA Ponkster
False God Confirmed said:
you are missing a bunch of stuff, like conversions off uppercut tech and other stuff, and your anti-airs are subpar man you can get way more damage into double bomb off a pretty much universal combo
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If you could quickly show it that would be great.

I do S4 net (AA) Mid high bomb - run S4 - close bomb - jumpbkkick - Mid high bomb - Uppercut - mid low bomb - NJP - double close bombs.

I do this because it works consistently every time, and I prefer that over damage; if your conversion does more damage and is consistent i'll swap.
 
Bruno-NeoSpace

Bruno-NeoSpace

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False God Confirmed said:
you are missing a bunch of stuff, like conversions off uppercut tech and other stuff
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Hmmm... IDK... but I think that those are the most practical. And the conversion off uppercut tech is there :confused:
False God Confirmed said:
and your anti-airs are subpar man you can get way more damage into double bomb off a pretty much universal combo
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I already have tried all conversions that you can think... those anti-air combos in the vid are the most practical, seriously.
 
Bruno-NeoSpace

Bruno-NeoSpace

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Zionix said:
I do S4 net (AA) Mid high bomb - run S4 - close bomb - jumpbkkick - Mid high bomb - Uppercut - mid low bomb - NJP - double close bombs.
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That is good, but the other one in the vid is better because it does the same damage and it's easier. The problem with the combo that you said is that you can miss it sometimes because of the gravity that is kinda too high in that combo.
 
Zionix

Zionix

AKA Ponkster
Bruno-NeoSpace said:
That is good, but the other one in the vid is better because it does the same damage and it's easier. The problem with the combo that you said is that you can miss it sometimes because of the gravity that is kinda too high in that combo.
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I'm yet to drop it. I will try your version though for comparisons sake.
 
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