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General/Other - Hish-Qu-Ten Predator Changes 10/4/16

JDM

Noob
Considering zoning is a lot stronger yea he might be a lot dumber
all my bad matchups are nerfed lol. Before I almost couldn't beat Johnny at all, now? Alist is toned down a LOT, so are all the run cancel characters.

I actually think he may be pretty braindead now. But I stuck with him this long so I'm not complaining.
 
Actually, I only analyzed his changes in a vacuum. In the new context even a slightly nerfed HQT Predator might be better than his old self, relatively speaking. My mistake, my mistake.
 

tafka Djinn

One for three off the roof
I feel like hqt is top tier again dunno bout you guys.
I'm feeling this something fierce. Predator, Quan, and Kitana all feel so stupid good I'm feeling myself hard right now. We might have lost launching armor, but system changes were a massive buff for us really.
 
I feel like hqt is top tier again dunno bout you guys.
HQT is definitely top 10 again. Most of his bad matchups were nerfed and he's still one of the best zoners in the game. His rushdown game also elevated since the nerf to armored launchers. His defense is still bad but he still has the tools to keep people out and it will be very hard for opponents to escape his corner pressure.
 

JDM

Noob
I'm feeling this something fierce. Predator, Quan, and Kitana all feel so stupid good I'm feeling myself hard right now. We might have lost launching armor, but system changes were a massive buff for us really.
we didn't even lose it though that's the thing. It just costs 2 bars. high price but most people's are actually gone. We can get through kit's fans for two bars and still punish for like 40 into knockdown.
 
Hm. Won't the vast amount of moves with double armor now be detrimental to Predator's gameplan since he can no longer utilize disc setups for free rushdown? He's forced to think instead and go for rushdown or block to punish reversals.
 

MadeOfMetal

Kenshi Srubtastic,Cyrax, Special Forces Mains
These are still possible lol
with more meter though. yeah it was before the patch released. I thout they would be gone with armored launchers gone. but yeah you can do it without armor for one bar. since the way they made him is much better, before he used his EXBF4 SS into EX BF2 Disk. and did it. and now you have to do it without Armor so you can be kocked out of air on way over, to do it for the same amount of bar. which is fine and I'm gald they did it that way so he wouls still have the option to do big damage without spending hella bar.

he is definitely better than I thought he would be.

and I have 50% midscreen in all 3 variations and they are all viable and great.
 
Soo, can u guys post some hqt post patch combos, and some cancel pressure tips because we can only cancel once now?
 

tafka Djinn

One for three off the roof
Not thinking about it and hearing the run changes makes it sound like that, so I can understand. Its not even really a dash, PCC returns you to neutral stand for a bar of stamina, but yeah the input is dash.
 
Considering zoning is a lot stronger yea he might be a lot dumber
On top of this he can still cancel twice when pressuring cuz its not run cancels. The universal removal of launching armor makes his pressure so much better and less risky. This character is going to be nuts again lol.
 
Lack of a legit armored move still sucks for him. I think you guys are overestimating HQT. It's not nerf worthy or anything. Good zoning, good pressure and horrible defense.
 

CrazyFingers

The Power of Lame Compels You
Lack of a legit armored move still sucks for him. I think you guys are overestimating HQT. It's not nerf worthy or anything. Good zoning, good pressure and horrible defense.
I mean he has better options than some and his can launch which is something even less characters can say. Yea it only has one hit which sucks for sure but we can't ignore that it's pretty decent in the current meta.
 

Dankster Morgan

It is better this way
I mean he has better options than some and his can launch which is something even less characters can say. Yea it only has one hit which sucks for sure but we can't ignore that it's pretty decent in the current meta.
I think HQT is easily top ten but Predator's defense is probably the worst in the game.

Edit: outside of warrior
 

YoloRoll1stHit

Publicly Educated
I tell you what I think. If you play HQT and you need armor, save 3 bars for xray. There's nothing wrong about that, and after xray he switches side too.
 
EX BF4 is a legit armored move. It's just easily broken.

There's a difference between something being situational and "not legit".
Uh, semantics. Considering it didn't get extra armor despite its slow startup I'd say it's not legit within the context of the post patch game. Most characters got double armor on their faster-startup moves, so it's obvious they leave Scimitar Slam unreliable for balancing purposes.
 
Just watched Destroyer's Predator against Sonic Fox's Cassie. Ouch! He stood absolutely no chance. He abandoned the supposed top-tier HQT for Goro, doing much, much better.

Now I'm obviously not saying one set says too much about the character, but yeah. Sonic Fox made HQT look completely helpless on defense ... and even quite harmless on offense. I've always felt like characters with good advancing normals are quite tough for Predator, myself. And Cassie definitely belongs to that group (others that spring to mind are Jason and Cage, obviously).

His other match that I watched he also gave up on Predator after one game and used Tremor to win the set, by the way. Yeah, I think you're greatly overestimating HQT.
 
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