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I think what he meant was you might accident drop combos. And ex lift is the wrong way to do unbreakable combos, you're supposed to use ex fan for more damage
I think what he meant was you might accident drop combos. And ex lift is the wrong way to do unbreakable combos, you're supposed to use ex fan for more damage
It's what was said and either way it is not correct and is totally false.
Are you seriously defending ex lift (not talking about RS of course). He was very reasonable about that. Who can you anti air with 18f unarmored special move? and if you can, why not go for regular lift instead to avoid wasting a bar and getting hit before it comes out? And obviously regular lift can lead to unbreakable combos, with 1 bar spend later for ex fan the output is much better. No I can't think of a single use for ex lift, please name one and explain before saying we're wrong
This is what happens when my bad habit of leaving out an important word shines through.
What I mean is that, I've on rare instances done something like back 1,4, ex lift when someone is close to breaking then fan tosses to close out the round. It's something I do if I know I'm going to open them up, but don't wanna use ex fan after the string because I know it will be broken if I do the follow up down 1 cancel immediately.This is what happens when my bad habit of leaving out an important word shines through.
What I meant to say was, "you can't combo off it optimally." You are correct in saying you can get combos off of it, but with the way EX lift works, you're locked out of certain strings from the get-go and it throws off the timing of moves that will connect. You would have to lab special combos and commit them to muscle memory all for a situation, for all intents and purposes, should never occur. In the end, you'll be doing less damage by spending a bar on a move that is supposed to add damage no matter how you slice it.
Curious what you mean by "It's not a bad way to sneak in a nice unbreakable combo." Regular lift is surely, if you follow up with the ol' EX fan barrage, but that again circles back to the question; why burn a bar for EX lift opposed to regular lift? There is no situation I can think of where you would use EX lift over regular lift if you are using Assassin or Mournful -- hence why I think it's a contender for most useless move.
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In the same situation, you can B14, lift, then instant air fan, ground fan, EX fan, ground fan for 30%. No need to use that D1 after. Interestingly, using EX lift can add another 5% in that same combo so I guess you could say it COULD be used in a "cash out" situation where you need an extra 5% that can't be broken. Extremely situational, but still.What I mean is that, I've on rare instances done something like back 1,4, ex lift when someone is close to breaking then fan tosses to close out the round. It's something I do if I know I'm going to open them up, but don't wanna use ex fan after the string because I know it will be broken if I do the follow up down 1 cancel immediately.
I'm 100% not saying it's some great move cause it's definitely not, but merely that it has situational applications sometimes.
When I think of pretty useless I think of her standing 4, the applications don't really occur to me lol.
I'm not really trying to defend ex lift, honestly if we're being clear. What I was mostly concerned with was being factually accurate about its comboability. It might be one of her least useful moves BUT that's not the main point I wanted to argue as it's not important to me enough to defend.
I agree with your more nuanced response for the most part, thanks for providing greater clarity
What? He can extend combos without using a bar with it. How is that useless?
I think he means the EX sand toss, which is indeed useless since the gaps created when cancelling into EX sand grenade are still there when canceling into sand toss.