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Discussion 10/21/16 Tier List (Spicy)

Revenant Zero

Death Comes
Most boring tier list incoming, because I think the game is decently balanced.

S: Ermac, Predator, Smoke, Mileena, Sonya, Jason

A+: Sub Zero, Quan, Reptile, Sektor, Kitana, Kano

A: Shinnok, Kotal Khan, Raiden, Liu Kang, Takeda, Goro, Tanya, Kenshi, Tremor, BRC, Kung Jin, Jacqui, Scorpion, Kung Lao

A-: Johnny Cage, Alien, Erron Black, Cassie, D'vorah, Leatherface, Cyber Sub Zero

B+: Jax, Cyrax

Edit: Going by best variation. Balanced Kenshi is definitely not A tier for example.
Goddamn it Mileena and Sonya. Get down from there.
 
Im glad to see that no one is downplaying jacqui. aside from high tech this bitch is still annoying as fuck. also cassie is always gonna be high B maybe A-
 

thlityoursloat

kick kick
And like I said before, if you're doing a LAW cancel then using EX OHDP instead of 3B2 as your launcher, you shouldn't even be playing Heavy Weapons.
Uhhh.. 3b2 is 11 frames so it's not an optimal punish, it also scales more so it's not optimal for max damage.
It's also more difficult to link into, so HW just got unnecessarily more execution heavy.
 

STRYKIE

Are ya' ready for MK11 kids?!
Uhhh.. 3b2 is 11 frames so it's not an optimal punish, it also scales more so it's not optimal for max damage.
It's also more difficult to link into, so HW just got unnecessarily more execution heavy.
What does the startup have to do with it? standing 3 links from all of Jax's key strings/normals into LAW cancel, albeit some are harder than others.

As far as meterless max damage midscreen, I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean for the other variations since it essentially doesn't exist.
 

TheGangstaFace

Psn, Xbox, Twitter: TheGangstaFace
He was but I wouldn't say D tier...I dont really think that tier exists right now...except for Lackey, Inferno and Warlock...rip those guys.
I don't believe in a D tier. To me the lowest it can go is C. C tier have no winning mu's. At least that's what it is to me. I wouldn't put Jax that low either. Probably a solid B+
 

CrazyFingers

The Power of Lame Compels You
It feels like some characters are just considered B or C tier just because they went from dumb to Fair like wtf lol
and then there's Leatherface...do people even know what Killer does? Do they understand how absurdly good that character is? Because I seriously think people just don't know.
 

Zionix

AKA Ponkster
The only thing you can be absolutely sure of on this list. Is that cyrax is in the right spot.

Still great fun though.
 

TheGangstaFace

Psn, Xbox, Twitter: TheGangstaFace
and then there's Leatherface...do people even know what Killer does? Do they understand how absurdly good that character is? Because I seriously think people just don't know.
I feel the same about Kung Jin fam. People gotta play or play against or look into Ancestral. Such a strong variation
 

YoloRoll1stHit

Publicly Educated
I'm seeing alot of people saying predator is S Tier now. Not saying I disagree or anything, but why?
HQT is very strong now. Top 2 zoning, jailing cancel, safe 50/50 (god bless him still able to run to combo after one PCC link), that motherf***ing d4, huge corner damage. He even has safe vortex in the corner. All of his worst matchups are greatly toned down
 

CrazyFingers

The Power of Lame Compels You
Yeah HQT is being slept on as possible #1.

His below average defense isn't enough to balance out his pre patch offense.
It's pretty gross tbh. I don't even know where to begin to get in on this fool or to get away from him when he's on top of me.
 

YoloRoll1stHit

Publicly Educated
Yeah HQT is being slept on as possible #1.

His below average defense isn't enough to balance out his pre patch offense.
Not sure but Demo's grenades seem very rough for HQT in neutral, and in the other thread you said Demo is possible #1 :DOGE
I don't disagree with you, I mean it's very hard to decide who's the best. Another contest for #1 in this game is Ermac, look at that ex push and all the bugs found
 

Tweedy

Noob
Not sure but Demo's grenades seem very rough for HQT in neutral, and in the other thread you said Demo is possible #1 :DOGE
I don't disagree with you, I mean it's very hard to decide who's the best. Another contest for #1 in this game is Ermac, look at that ex push and all the bugs found
Like you said "possible #1"

I think there are 5-6 characters in that realm.