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Boon announces MKXL patch details. Oct 3rd, time to prep. Oct 4th, all hell breaks loose!

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MadeOfMetal

Kenshi Srubtastic,Cyrax, Special Forces Mains
No Problem, i want everyone to see it. Hope everyone gets something they want. and even if Mixups are not nerfed, and Armored launchers don't go away. which it wont. and i hope to god it does not. but i hope those people get at least soemthing they want.

Living Forest


Here it is again so its on the next page:

Time's For Kombat Kast:

3:00Pm on Monday in Central USA
9:00PM Monday in Europe
9:00PM on Monday in Ireland
10:00PM Monday in Germany
11:00PM Monday in Greece
11:00PM on Monday in Moscow Russia
 

Tanno

The Fantasy is the Reality of the Mind
SZ's JIP is as it always was, what are you talking about?
Ask @AcMilan91 about this. Everybody is saying that SZ is broken, and I kindly asked why is he broken. I wasn't here before MKXL, so I don't know what the fuck happened there. I didn't have time to lab on my first main.
 

MadeOfMetal

Kenshi Srubtastic,Cyrax, Special Forces Mains
Ask @AcMilan91 about this. Everybody is saying that SZ is broken, and I kindly asked why is he broken. I wasn't here before MKXL, so I don't know what the fuck happened there. I didn't have time to lab on my first main.
dude i told ya, they are arguing about his JIP beiong always broken, nothing changed, they just believe its broken. I know its not broken and have always AA'ed it, and if a Sub Zero Crosses me over all the time, its his own Funeral.


they where saying or he was, that SZ can just JIP over you all day and get away with it. i was like hell no lol. and then you came in and thought something changed about him! you are all caught up.
 

Tanno

The Fantasy is the Reality of the Mind
dude i told ya, they are arguing about his JIP beiong always broken, nothing changed, they just believe its broken. I know its not broken and have always AA'ed it, and if a Sub Zero Crosses me over all the time, its his own Funeral.

they where saying or he was, that SZ can just JIP over you all day and get away with it. i was like hell no lol. and then you came in and thought something changed about him! you are all caught up.
I see...

To be blunt, if I were to see something that's broken, it would be his B2 not connecting on frozen Mileena's YOLO roll, his D2 not connecting to all of the frozen females from behind, all due of their loss of hitboxes, and his occasional Ice Klone whiffs. If I saw that JIP was broken, I would, of course, be furious. I hope NRS have time to fix everyone's issues, and I wish for this deep in my heart.
 
dude i told ya, they are arguing about his JIP beiong always broken, nothing changed, they just believe its broken. I know its not broken and have always AA'ed it, and if a Sub Zero Crosses me over all the time, its his own Funeral.


they where saying or he was, that SZ can just JIP over you all day and get away with it. i was like hell no lol. and then you came in and thought something changed about him! you are all caught up.
Good luck anti air his jip
 

Pan1cMode

AUS FGC represent!
its 3PM Central North America so look on google and see what time it is where you are at.
in fact i will:

Time For Kombat Kast:
3:00Pm on Monday in Central USA

9:00PM Monday in Europe
9:00PM on Monday in Ireland
10:00PM Monday in Germany
11:00PM Monday in Greece
11:00PM on Monday in Moscow Russia
No love for Australia.

6am for my Melbourne and Sydney Bretheren.
 

Dankster Morgan

It is better this way
i personally like what they are giving to Cryomancer and hope they give more to GM and Unbreakable. I think GM is the most hated character aside from Cyrax. people just hate for no reason. he needs a new tool kit to mix it up, guys Change is good and it won't hurt you. Adapt to changes don't cast them out. Sub Zero is Fucking awesome and always has been. i hope he gets the love he deserves.
Grandmaster is fine now though and doesn't need changed whatsoever :/
 

MadeOfMetal

Kenshi Srubtastic,Cyrax, Special Forces Mains
Grandmaster is fine now though and doesn't need changed whatsoever :/
yeah but i woulkdnt mind buffs:)

i think he should have Clone stay on block and step farther back from clone. just my opinion. that is much more effective than changing every other character that goes through him
 

Dankster Morgan

It is better this way
A third.
What about the other 3/4ths that get fucked by ji1 ji1 ji1 ji1 safe clone 50/50 and iceball behind clone spam?
You probably just want to run in and can't stand the fact that there is a character with good defense.
He doesn't murder the other 3/4, he bodies about 2-3, beats another 10 or so, gets fucking obliterated by about 7 or 8, rest are probably even. Salt makes people say some really stupid and misinformed things. If your a troll then take notes from MD, at least he is funny.
 

Dankster Morgan

It is better this way
yeah but i woulkdnt mind buffs:)

i think he should have Clone stay on block and step farther back from clone. just my opinion. that is much more effective than changing every other character that goes through him
Maybe but he just doesn't need it, it's just the characters above him that should be tweaked. Over buffing mid tier characters is just tier shifting, not real balance. Actual bad characters should get buffed.
 

MadeOfMetal

Kenshi Srubtastic,Cyrax, Special Forces Mains
Maybe but he just doesn't need it, it's just the characters above him that should be tweaked. Over buffing mid tier characters is just tier shifting, not real balance. Actual bad characters should get buffed.
i get that but the nerf to him created all these problems, and undoing Clone away on hit/block solves it. they can adjust other things to balance him further.

Imagine, you clone and Block. D'Vorah doe sher shit, and since SZ blocking she gets frozen on hit. bam problem solved. that one change caused so much bs for him. all cuz people freaked before his release.
 

A F0xy Grampa

Problem X Promotions
dude i told ya, they are arguing about his JIP beiong always broken, nothing changed, they just believe its broken. I know its not broken and have always AA'ed it, and if a Sub Zero Crosses me over all the time, its his own Funeral.


they where saying or he was, that SZ can just JIP over you all day and get away with it. i was like hell no lol. and then you came in and thought something changed about him! you are all caught up.
There's situations you literally can't anti air subs cross over jump, it's a stupid jump in there's no justifying it.
 

MadeOfMetal

Kenshi Srubtastic,Cyrax, Special Forces Mains
There's situations you literally can't anti air subs cross over jump, it's a stupid jump in there's no justifying it.
yes there is. but this guy said, jip cross over cross over cross over then you cant do shit. trying to make it sound like you can do that shit all day without punishment. its not that bad. Subs is strong as fuck, but no alien JIP2. the thing i was seperating is players with Disjointed hurtboxs can AA subs but can't always AA aliens or Kotals. if you get my point of view
 

A F0xy Grampa

Problem X Promotions
yes there is. but this guy said, jip cross over cross over cross over then you cant do shit. trying to make it sound like you can do that shit all day without punishment. its not that bad. Subs is strong as fuck, but no alien JIP2. the thing i was seperating is players with Disjointed hurtboxs can AA subs but can't always AA aliens or Kotals. if you get my point of view
Im talking about Sub, not trying to justify his existence by Kotal or Alien.

The jump in is straight up dumb, all jumps need to be easily anti aired by every single character for no meter. It's just a fundamental quality that automatically forces more skill in the gameplay that isn't there.

Sub Zero can jump at you, you could have read the prophecy 10,000 years ago of the day and time this sub zero was gonna jump at you, practice that anti air for many many years, and still be beat out for it. That's not right.
 

MadeOfMetal

Kenshi Srubtastic,Cyrax, Special Forces Mains
Im talking about Sub, not trying to justify his existence by Kotal or Alien.

The jump in is straight up dumb, all jumps need to be easily anti aired by every single character for no meter. It's just a fundamental quality that automatically forces more skill in the gameplay that isn't there.
Agree 100%. i have always campaigned for all JIP's JIK's and NJP's to get universally nerfed. and AA's across the board to be buffed, a good example of a great AA is like Ermacs D4 or Mileenas Roll or Sonyas D2. when your Hurtbox is so low it can't be hit by Airborn JIP's and your hitbox is so high that it out trades theres. allowing you to take control of the sky attacks and have a tool to combat them. i agree Trust me.

Just was telling him Subs is medium in hitbox's and yes some characters have a very hard time stopping it. but AA's should be available on everyone. No Doubt
 

Tanno

The Fantasy is the Reality of the Mind
If NRS had to read these forums occasionally, this mess wouldn't happen. :/
 
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