@Pan1cMode in Sonya Special Forces thread is saying that Sonya got her B1 nerfed. i Can't find any video besiides this one showing her do anything:
This is Venomous not Swarm Qween to be clear!
and in that one i tested it, and it showed me that when she does the B1 the Frames go from 60FPS down to 30FPS
which would in my mind make each fram go from 16.67ms to 33.34ms and make it look slower?
does anyone else have a Link to this "Sonya Nerf" cuz i can't find it anywhere. maybe i missed one?
@Pan1cMode in Sonya Special Forces thread is saying that Sonya got her B1 nerfed. i Can't find any video besiides this one showing her do anything:
This is Venomous not Swarm Qween to be clear!
and in that one i tested it, and it showed me that when she does the B1 the Frames go from 60FPS down to 30FPS
which would in my mind make each fram go from 16.67ms to 33.34ms and make it look slower?
does anyone else have a Link to this "Sonya Nerf" cuz i can't find it anywhere. maybe i missed one?
@Pan1cMode in Sonya Special Forces thread is saying that Sonya got her B1 nerfed. i Can't find any video besiides this one showing her do anything:
This is Venomous not Swarm Qween to be clear!
and in that one i tested it, and it showed me that when she does the B1 the Frames go from 60FPS down to 30FPS
which would in my mind make each fram go from 16.67ms to 33.34ms and make it look slower?
does anyone else have a Link to this "Sonya Nerf" cuz i can't find it anywhere. maybe i missed one?
If you check the twitter, you should see for yourself. I have a keen eye to know which is slower or not. I saw it as 60fps, meaning that it was played smoothly without any 720p/30fps shit like the playstation stored videos. It's 1080p/60fps like in any stream and such.
If you check the twitter, you should see for yourself. I have a keen eye to know which is slower or not. I saw it as 60fps, meaning that it was played smoothly without any 720p/30fps shit like the playstation stored videos. It's 1080p/60fps like in any stream and such.
human eyes can not see the difference of 60FPS vs 30FPS for a split second. but if thats what they are going off thats a huge stretch. and everyone is hyping shit up that i honeslty don't think is gonna be done.
I know many hate Mixups, but the entire game has been built around them. 99% of cast have Mixups or some other shit. and they are not in my mind going to change something that huge last Patch. that could potentially screw upo the entire game. they could make several characters unviable and undo all the patches they have done throught the game. yes some have got the shaft and some have gotten overbuffed. but honestly this is the MOST Balanced game NRS has ever created. even with the Worst character Kenshi IMO you can still have a chance at winning against Mileena/Alien. no matter how hard it is.
Was not that way in MK9 Kabal vs Baraka you know who wins. Cyrax vs Stryker you know who won that matchup.
now that is a better Clip of it, anbd that one did stay 60FPS the entire time.
maybe its slightly slower, that couldn't hurt her. does it look like its still an Overhead?
Many on TYM are jumping to the conclusion that MKXL is taking away Mixups, and changing the entire game. i think this could be possible but not very likely. honestly im fine with her B1 being a bit slower. but it would be dumb to have every mixup be plus 20 frames of startup. i like having Mixups believe it or not. seems dumb but i see no difference than guessing a Throw/3hit/4hit combo? actually better odds to guess OH/Low. but many think if its removed it will be much fairer. and well anyone who played other fighters knows this is not the case. it will still be based on guesses and Reads like Every fighter is even if they don't have OH/LOW's they still have Stagger pressure, Number of hits, OS and so on, which all creates the same type of senerio that Mixups do.
but i do agree on Toning down the:
50/50 into another 50/50 bullshit. that is dumb. there should be gaps in all of those so they can be armored. some do but not all.
human eyes can not see the difference of 60FPS vs 30FPS for a split second. but if thats what they are going off thats a huge stretch. and everyone is hyping shit up that i honeslty don't think is gonna be done.
I know many hate Mixups, but the entire game has been built around them. 99% of cast have Mixups or some other shit. and they are not in my mind going to change something that huge last Patch. that could potentially screw upo the entire game. they could make several characters unviable and undo all the patches they have done throught the game. yes some have got the shaft and some have gotten overbuffed. but honestly this is the MOST Balanced game NRS has ever created. even with the Worst character Kenshi IMO you can still have a chance at winning against Mileena/Alien. no matter how hard it is.
Was not that way in MK9 Kabal vs Baraka you know who wins. Cyrax vs Stryker you know who won that matchup.
I'm doubting this will be the last patch. They are monkeying with way too much for it to be a stable patch, and hyping it up too much to be waving goodbye to the game. Ideally a final patch should be subtle fine tuning, and this isn't looking like that.
your contradicting yourself there.
kabal vs baraka & cyrax vs stryker where not 10-0, you had a chance.
just like the way you said kenshi has a chance.
nah i think thats ll of them till Monday: 2 Days from now. i can hardly wait: i Wanted to have Confirmation of Kenshi buffs, Cyrax buffs, Raiden MOS/displacer, JAcqui High Tech, Kano Commando/Cybernetic, Sub Zero Unbreakable, and more
Speaking of eyes, that's true that almost no eye can keep up with this speed. I have gotten used to it, because of my graphic design work. I have becoming more observatory regarding of such stuff, so much that I can notice the difference. I believe that this OH became 50 frames before hit. Earlier, she was like 30-40 frames. Now she has the same speed like Sub Zero's.
your contradicting yourself there.
kabal vs baraka & cyrax vs stryker where not 10-0, you had a chance.
just like the way you said kenshi has a chance.
Obviously you know what i ment, everyone on here does not have to be that literal about everything? Obviously Baraka Lost against Kabal, it was Common Knowledge an you get what i mean on the other one. but sure i contradicted myself. lol
and of course you get what i mean. Ksnhi has a considerable less chance in the senerio i have gicven compared to MK9 example i gave above. KAbl was all over you wouldn't let you breat. cvertain characters had Frame Traps and some just lacked. on this game, they have given Strong tools to the entire cast. and they have a much larger Come back factor on MKXL than MK9.
I'm doubting this will be the last patch. They are monkeying with way too much for it to be a stable patch, and hyping it up too much to be waving goodbye to the game. Ideally a final patch should be subtle fine tuning, and this isn't looking like that.
Speaking of eyes, that's true that almost no eye can keep up with this speed. I have gotten used to it, because of my graphic design work. I have becoming more observatory regarding of such stuff, so much that I can notice the difference. I believe that this OH became 50 frames before hit. Earlier, she was like 30-40 frames. Now she has the same speed like Sub Zero's.
No Prob man, when you gave me that other link, it was all 60FPS i had a fauty one that dropped FPS probably one that was shared to much and lost integrity.
Obviously you know what i ment, everyone on here does not have to be that literal about everything? Obviously Baraka Lost against Kabal, it was Common Knowledge an you get what i mean on the other one. but sure i contradicted myself. lol
and of course you get what i mean. Ksnhi has a considerable less chance in the senerio i have gicven compared to MK9 example i gave above. KAbl was all over you wouldn't let you breat. cvertain characters had Frame Traps and some just lacked. on this game, they have given Strong tools to the entire cast. and they have a much larger Come back factor on MKXL than MK9.
#1 Kenshi no doubt
#2 Cyrax he is my main: wiffing issues, Glicths on Net/Teleport, needs Mid and Launching Teleport.
#3 CSZ he is my friends main and Brothers main
#4 Raiden MOS and Displacer. id love for those two to get buffs, i love using Raiden
#5 Unbreakable, i love the Cryo Command Grab though thats dope
#6 Hat Trick, needs buffs and fixes on Wiffing issues so much.
#7 i want Venomous and Brood Mother to get some love
#8 Goro
#9 Fisty Cuffs
#10 Bo Rai Cho/Leatherface
and there is more but thats my Top!
Along with it. i like using alot of characxters. and i feel sometimes that they get nerfed for tournaments and what im made to believe is many top players are saying the game is dead allready and they just gonna play Injustice 2 so why nerf and ruin many characters just to not play the game? why not keep alot viablke and fun. the CASUALS and FANS will still be true 5 Years to follow playing MKXL or MKXLL or what ev it is then lol.
But what i want is Mileena/Sonya/Kano/Alien to still be useful after there nerfs. i hope Sonya Special Forces stays in tact and they don't carry over nerfs universally on any of the characters.
Sonya just remove Grenades on hit.
Alien i think the JIP2 and Tail hitbox nerf is fine.
Mileena seems to have got a hard one, but i think if thats it she can pull out of it. maybe they added something cool for Ravenous and Ethreal?
Kano maybe Power up gets adjusted but keep the core fighter intact.
I don't use alien or Kano but would lovve for mains to be able to stay with them. i don't mean the Tier Whores. thats another thing that blows about the community. 99% is Tier Whores and they call for nerfs because it does not effect them, they can throw away each character like its trash because they just hope on the next Broke thing. while Character Loyalist and Fans suffer the entire game life from what they do.
kinda shitty.
then players like me suffer:
i Main Cyrax, and Kenshi, and play with MOS Raiden/Unbreakable Sub, Sonya Special Forces and a few others Like Ravenous/Ethreal Mileena having fun to mix it up every now and then.
Meanwhile the Top Tier Whore usues a character and says another is broke, gets it nerfed with a single video, then hopes on the character they hushed and Downplayed and repeat the process while character Loyalist and other Casuals and Lif eLong character fans suffer. becaus eof it.
Can you tell i hate Tier Whores lol and counterpickers, noone can have fun or a fair match now adays. eveyone online, is always wanting to be the best. and think they have to win veery match, they even Quit every match they lose, Close system to lkeep good score, because thats whats important to them. not getting better, not learning cool shit or Tech, not having fun with friends. to most its about EGO and the struggle to look better than everyone.
Throw or hit mixup- It's either 12 percent or 30+ percent. Throw can be teched on reaction, and it's a read you make to not block. Also you can poke between throw startup or duck and full combo punish. Again, its all a read.
Now your second option
Overhead or low- Both do 30+ on hit, blocking at most grants you a punish, for a lot it just grants you a turn but they are safe, for a couple it's still not your turn because they are plus. There's no tech, no reads, you either block high or block low. Heads or tails. If you guess wrong you lose 30+. This is also not counting the mixups into mixups or fun-to-blockables.
Yeah I'd much rather fight lao than alien or kano in terms of mixups any day lol
Obviously you know what i ment, everyone on here does not have to be that literal about everything? Obviously Baraka Lost against Kabal, it was Common Knowledge an you get what i mean on the other one. but sure i contradicted myself. lol
and of course you get what i mean. Ksnhi has a considerable less chance in the senerio i have gicven compared to MK9 example i gave above. KAbl was all over you wouldn't let you breat. cvertain characters had Frame Traps and some just lacked. on this game, they have given Strong tools to the entire cast. and they have a much larger Come back factor on MKXL than MK9.
emmm you just did it again :/
above you said kenshi would have a better chance in mkxl vs mileena/alien than baraka vs kabal in mk9 and in post i quoted u said he has a considerably less chance.
but im not too arsed going in circles so ill just leave it there and keep the thread on topic
Throw or hit mixup- It's either 12 percent or 30+ percent. Throw can be teched on reaction, and it's a read you make to not block. Also you can poke between throw startup or duck and full combo punish. Again, its all a read.
Now your second option
Overhead or low- Both do 30+ on hit, blocking at most grants you a punish, for a lot it just grants you a turn but they are safe, for a couple it's still not your turn because they are plus. There's no tech, no reads, you either block high or block low. Heads or tails. If you guess wrong you lose 30+. This is also not counting the mixups into mixups or fun-to-blockables.
Yeah I'd much rather fight lao than alien or kano in terms of mixups any day lol
Agreed id rather have Mixup ionto jailed mixup go away, what i was trying to say in last post. but keep the fundamentls like reading and OH or LOw or Throw.
Agreed id rather have Mixup ionto jailed mixup go away, what i was trying to say in last post. but keep the fundamentls like reading and OH or LOw or Throw.
I was trying to illustrate that there is a mega huge diifference between overhead or low or hit or throw. I don't know if you understood my point because i don't think you agreed with it. Oh or low into full combo is considerably worse because there is nothing you can do but block a certain way unlike hit or throw where you have a multitude of escape options.
I was trying to illustrate that there is a mega huge diifference between overhead or low or hit or throw. I don't know if you understood my point because i don't think you agreed with it. Oh or low into full combo is considerably worse because there is nothing you can do but block a certain way unlike hit or throw where you have a multitude of escape options.
ohh, gotchaz, i was saying before to me its the same. we can be different, but i think if a character does 2 hits then does a quick 4 hits off Plus 2 on block. then opponent thinks it was gonna be 2 and 3, then they just opened them up and full combo's them the same way if they did a Oh or a Low. kinda like how Cybernetic does it. or how Grapplers do it, i know grappelers are another category, but each one is examples of different ,methods of opening up characters. and in reality none is more fair than the ohter, they vare all Unreactible and Reads so you are guessing with all of them, Cancel pressure/Mixups/Staggers/Jailing moves into more moves/Option Select and Guesses on that/Number of hits and guesses on this. what all of them have in common is if guessed wrong by opponent they get Comboed. if you know what i mean. but i know many are super against Mixups and would rather have them gone.
to me its ok ive accpted it over a year ago. thats how this game is. and i play MK because its MK. if i wanted another system id play another game.
But io do get what you are saying. i just Respectfully dissagree on a smal part of it. most of everything you said i 100% agree with. like i do think its dumb to have mixups and Cancel pressure, but at the same time, thats MK and i loive it because of its uniwque approach and Mind Games
