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Breakthrough - Raiden Raiden balance changes

Darth-Nero

Come Thunder! Come Lightning!
So it looks like super man now have two hits of armor on wakeup, RIP "all mighty" clone

https://twitter.com/NRS_NNicastro/status/781939653326823424/photo/1

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  • Raiden - BK, BK is now +2 on block (up from -5) and can now be special cancelled
  • Raiden - Down+FK is now -4 on block and adjusted the hit region
  • Raiden - Vicinity Burst now has 2 hits of armor, hits mid, is -2 on block (down from 0), does 9 damage (up from 5), and no longer knocks down
  • Raiden - Vicinity Blast now does 8 damage (up from 5) and has 10 less recovery frames
  • Raiden - Electrocute & Shocker now hit mid
  • Raiden - Thunder Strike & Shocker no longer has armor
  • Raiden - Thunder Fly & Air Thunder Fly now have 2 hits of armor
  • Raiden - Electric Fly & Thunder Fly (air & ground) now recover 15 frames faster on miss
  • Raiden (Thunder God) -
  • Raiden (Displacer) -
  • Raiden (Master of Storms) - Directional Static Trap startup and recovery is more consistent now
  • Raiden (Master of Storms) - Static Trap passive damage is now 0.5 (up from 0.2)
  • Raiden (Master of Storms) - Static Trap now activates in 14 frames (down from 16)
  • Raiden (Master of Storms) - Full Trap now activates in 11 frames (down from 12)
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DDutchguy

Stand 4'ing airplanes out of the sky
If it's only on wakeup it can be pretty neat vs Grandmaster. Still the move is quite unsafe and Raiden never really had a wakeup problem to begin with.

But hey it's a Raiden buff so I'm hype!
 

hkriderz

Lin Kuei Scum, yellow robot enthusiast
Ah ok, so this is a guessing game now where if sub tries anything then he'll get superman'ed away but if he guesses the ex superman then sub can punish raiden right?
Yeah. But also if sub knows raiden is going to wake up he can armor break it as well like he does punchwalk. He has to spend a bar to do it though. It's basically a convoluted guessing game.
 
So it looks like super man now have two hits of armor on wakeup, RIP "all mighty" clone

https://twitter.com/NRS_NNicastro/status/781939653326823424/photo/1

#Can'tZoneTheThunder

@Nivek
@DDutchguy
@Aqueous_Echo
@Lil Majin
@TheRealOnlyGoonie
@ganondeurf
@Raidenwins
@dennycascade
Thanks for the tag! Super hype that Raiden has big man armor.

This makes oki pokes against Raiden much easier to shut down because this is a mid they have to respect on wake-up now. (Ex db3 whiff issues)

It'd be super duper hype if non launching armor in neutral is a thing (example superman) so we can get through some double projectiles a bit easier. Otherwise, I love even this small buff. Raiden doesn't need much, but what he does need he needs it bad.
 

hkriderz

Lin Kuei Scum, yellow robot enthusiast
Let's not forget that they're all but confirming that armor isn't in the neutral anymore. Only wake-up and reversal.
Lol I just imagined Goro players not being able to randomly armor punchwalk.

If it actually happens, it's a HUGE buff for grandmaster :D:D
 

Darth-Nero

Come Thunder! Come Lightning!
Thanks for the tag! Super hype that Raiden has big man armor.

This makes oki pokes against Raiden much easier to shut down because this is a mid they have to respect on wake-up now. (Ex db3 whiff issues)
Yeah man, The hype is real. Am actually going to post a tech regarding Ex db3, assuming it'll remain unchanged after the patch.

It'd be super duper hype if non launching armor in neutral is a thing (example superman) so we can get through some double projectiles a bit easier. Otherwise, I love even this small buff. Raiden doesn't need much, but what he does need he needs it bad.
This.
I wouldn't have put it better myself, Thank you for your level-headed comment(s) =)
 
Yeah man, The hype is real. Am actually going to post a tech regarding Ex db3, assuming it'll remain unchanged after the patch.



This.
I wouldn't have put it better myself, Thank you for your level-headed comment(s) =)
Always level headed. Raiden isn't as bad as people let on. He's just got a small empty space in his game just around sweep/jump distance. You can bait a LOT though if people challenge that weakness however
 

Darth-Nero

Come Thunder! Come Lightning!
Always level headed. Raiden isn't as bad as people let on. He's just got a small empty space in his game just around sweep/jump distance. You can bait a LOT though if people challenge that weakness however
I try to cover that empty space with a fast lightning string (112,f12b2 or b32) to keep my opponent in check while building meter on block at the same time. I think it'd help if b32 was faster on startup, not too fast so he can machine gun it but fast enough so he wouldn't fear checking his opponent with it from that distance.
 
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