Dankster Morgan
It is better this way
Chill, they won't nerf grandmaster. If anything he will inadvertently get better from nerd to top tiers.
NoSlide does not go under reptile fireballs.
Ex frostbomb launcher now -21 on block.
Clone does not come out point blank ever, prevents it for being used as a parry during rushdown.
Shatter damage done per shard, instead of 1 tiny shard knipping your feet for 20%.
That's about it. Thank you NRS.
*yawnsub-zero doesn't need buffs. nerfs if anything. if he gets buffed, it'll just be the case as is it was with mileena where she was already pretty good, but went to top tier because of buffs and nerfs to her bad matchups. so no buffs for sub, he's already very strong.
yeah Sub Zero has his problems and they are real, hitbox issues, corner uppercuts miss rezze misses in corner and alot of stuff sucks about GM Sub Zero, but we all know with those problems he is a great character and does very well, he has capability to freeze opponent in clone and preform a pseudo vortex( what i call a P vortex is when you can armor through it or have a gap when a traditional vortex can't be armored and forces opponent to guess between oh/low again after restand/freeze/? and he gets this aftyer a freeze that grounds him or not) if you time it right you can hit them right after they unfreeze from clone. thats one great tool he has, then he has a solid OH b2 and a plethora of lows that are safe. fast normals and a way to trap people away from him that can also be used as a parry. SZ GM is in no way bad, only way he can suck is having the wrong person behind the controller of him.Nobody and i mean nobody not even Tom with his 15 years old girl like tantrums thinks that Kenshi is on the level of GM SZ. Coz its like night and day difference. Not to mention you're talking about 2 people when in bigger picture not even 1/100 of people who think Kenshi is trash (low tier) also think that GM SZ is bad. Simply because he isn't.
Just don't uninstall the game like Brady does everytime or complain how the Icr Klone doesn't workYes copy paste what Brady madzin etc do as they're playing him correctly
Shat about his godlike jip? I mean i like to play him but his jip is just too strong, and yeah i would like to use b2 b2 d1 b12 clone on females too (equallity)As a SZ mainer, I know of his problems.
Universally, his problem is the missable hitbox against all females. He can't even uppercut them from behind them.
I don't think that GM needs to be nerfed. He's fine as he is and on par with A+ characters. The only problem there is the Ice Klone whiffing issues, which NEED to be fixed. Another fix that Ice Klone needs to get is the LOW PART against Alien. You all know that Alien with his Tail Grab CAN pass through his Ice Klone and catch Subby's legs. As proof, you saw Tweedy's match against Buffalo.
Another problem is the slow D1. He only needs to have it a bit faster.
That's all for the GM.
For Cryo, he needs to fix his style as the offensive character. Other Cryo mainers would know it very well than me, but I know that Air Ice Hammer NEEDS to have an EX just like the grounded Ice Hammer do.
Unbreakable has his own issues and needs buffs to be on par with the other variations.
Ice Aura has its own issue. Since Aura is a living Ice Klone, it ought to protect Sub Zero from chipping and DOT attacks, including the projectiles, for as long as it's being active.
Another problem is his Barrier of Frost. He CAN'T protect himself from OH and JI and NJ attacks. However, for a weird reason he CAN protect himself from some teleportation attacks, like Scorpion's and Mileena's.
That's all from me. If he gets nerfed, then he'll be on par with the C tier characters, and I don't like it. He had already enough problems with the nerfs.
You can do double D1. I have done this a while ago when I got back on training after a long time. The females are a bit light than the males.Shat about his godlike jip? I mean i like to play him but his jip is just too strong, and yeah i would like to use b2 b2 d1 b12 clone on females too (equallity)
I know about 2x d1, but for 1 or 2%? No thanks, cuz its not that ez, i know buffalo does thatYou can do double D1. I have done this a while ago when I got back on training after a long time. The females are a bit light than the males.
His JIPs are fine. They are on par with the other characters' JIPs. Universally his DMG is 2%, while the JIK is 3%. I rarely use the JIK as starter, like the following combos:
JIKxxIce Klone, NJP, JIP, JIP, 1, 1, 112.
JIK, D1, 1, B12xxIce Klone, NJP, JIP, 112.
JIK, D4xxIce Klone (similar to the starting match), ...
And many more.
Don't make it sound like that makes it magically consistent. Nothing sub does against females is consistent. All male combos should work the same against females. All launch heights regardless of crouch should be the same, and all the other crap sub has to deal with needs to be gone.You can do double D1. I have done this a while ago when I got back on training after a long time. The females are a bit light than the males.
His JIPs are fine. They are on par with the other characters' JIPs. Universally his DMG is 2%, while the JIK is 3%. I rarely use the JIK as starter, like the following combos:
JIKxxIce Klone, NJP, JIP, JIP, 1, 1, 112.
JIK, D1, 1, B12xxIce Klone, NJP, JIP, 112.
JIK, D4xxIce Klone (similar to the starting match), ...
And many more.
Unsure if it's a Cryo exclusive. I think that's universal. I need someone to test it, because for medical reasons I can't.@Tanno
to the OP @Zerodegreez
so by Nerfs to GM you actually mean Buffs: check it out here:
Cryomancer becomes a Grappler Holy shit balls. Fuck yeah!
lol man, how do you take 2 BUFFS for Sub Zero and turn it into a possible bad thing for him? are you Paranoid much?No, I mean Nerfs to GM.
That Alien Tail not going through Clone is going to Cost GM something. Give GM something Mid Screen take away his Corner game...Who knows? Reptile losing his ex launchers is unsettling and makes me wonder what they've done to the frost bomb. If EX no longer launches and regular frost bomb can't be used with Shatters THEN we have been Nerfed to the Ground.
But hey, I'm sure I'm wrong and They couldn't be 'That Ruthless' we will just have to Chill Out and wait and see...(pun intended )
yeah i seen the convos, and the Tick throw is Exclusive to Cryomancer and the nerf to Alien's Tail is secretley a Buff to GM as wellI think it's Cryo Exclusive.
A few people are saying that it's the Start Up of Cold Blooded then there's the #Polar Puncture from Paulo himself which could be another name for Cold Blooded as it may be a Special now rather than the End of a String which Cabjoy has suggested in his video which is a Exclsuively a Cyro Move.
If it's a Cryo exclusive, then it might be a special cancel for a longer combo there. If so, the corner combo would be:Lol, yeah I am but trying to Chill
With the command grab, I think it's Cryo Exclusive.
A few people are saying that it's the Start Up of Cold Blooded then there's the #Polar Puncture from Paulo himself which could be another name for Cold Blooded as it may be a Special now rather than the End of a String which Cabjoy has suggested in his video which is a Exclusively a Cyro Move.
Cryo mancer is cool and all, but i want to see Unbreakable Buffs. and Raiden MOS Buffs, And Balanced Kenshi buffs. because Kenshi Balanced isIf it's a Cryo exclusive, then it might be a special cancel for a longer combo there. If so, the corner combo would be:
JIP, B12xxT (the new command grab), B2, B2, F42TxxEX Hammer, F42TxxEX Iceball, F42TxxEX Hammer, 123xxSlide.
Or
B2, B2, F42TxxEX Hammer, F42TxxEX Iceball, F42TxxEX Hammer, D4xxT, 112/F12/F33/B33D4/123xxSlide.
I only hope that the Throw can catch the stunned opponent.
We'll see later in the Kombat Kast video. I think that they're hiding them for surprise. I hope they fix UB, so that I can play him properly.Cryo mancer is cool and all, but i want to see Unbreakable Buffs. and Raiden MOS Buffs, And Balanced Kenshi buffs. because Kenshi Balanced is
UB????????We'll see later in the Kombat Kast video. I think that they're hiding them for surprise. I hope they fix UB, so that I can play him properly.
Short term for UnBreakable.UB????????
ohh yueah for sure, I want persoannally you know from PM's but, Barrier of Frsot needs to stop JI(P/K)'sShort term for UnBreakable.
You should have bought a digital copyA patch is not coming & I will record myself breaking my physical disc in half if it does.
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