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Question - Reptile If this patch happens, what would you like to see changed with Reptile?

TamedLizard

Buff George
Lol can someone explain a single use for ex swipe now and ex hop. They are utterly and completely useless now They butchered him this is hilarious
You can still use swipe to get a full combo off B3/F3. That is, assuming it still launches.

The pounce? Mehhhh. Still alright for counter zoning. Although I don't know the point of burning a bar for it unless they buffed the EX damage or increased hit advantage. Armor is armor though I guess and it's an OH so that's something.
 

UsedForGlue

"Strength isn't everything"
First of all, we don't know whats really happening here.

Im guessing from the footage I've seen, which is very little, that there will be a universal nerf to launching armour. Or a basic rule of:

1. Any attacks that previously launched for a combo won't have armour anymore, so they will be straight up fast launchers (like War God's overhead sword) but they will have different properties, like hitting overhead or low, so they can be used in mix ups and offence specifically.

2. Any attacks that have armour will no longer launch for a combo, but they may have other properties, like being completely safe on block, or are command grabs, or have pushback etc.

So in the case of Reptile, his MB claw launched, but didn't have armour, while his MB flip has armour but splatted the opponent.

I can't see this change being character specific, but it could be a universal cast mechanic, and the sad thing is, it will be the only one thing the cast will have as a common rule, and it may all just be too late.

Im also sure characters have been packing armour on almost every move will get something in their design to compensate.

For instance, if Tempest no longer has armour on his MB spin, I'm sure it will just be fast as balls, like 4 frames or something, which means it will function like MK9.
 

MadeOfMetal

Kenshi Srubtastic,Cyrax, Special Forces Mains
After seeing some vague hints on twitter from devs I think the armor is completely gone from it, and most armored launchers in general (if not all).
coul;dn 't hurt too much, he is a great character. maybe it would, but i think things like Spit Stops run is a great addition. and stuff like that could help with certain matchups. looks like alien is changing the cast. and it seems they might be making other characters get what alien has instead of removing them from Alien. i truly think Alien is one of Ed Boons favoprites and i think they cater to Sonic alot.
 

TamedLizard

Buff George
He's not worse than Kenshi lol. His base character is better than his will ever be. Better mids, better mixups, better advancing strings/normals and better meterless damage. And even now, better universal armor.

Deceptive can still jail into 50/50's and he has a godlike flash parry.

Nimble still gets insane corner carry and damage.

And if the rumors of better recovery on spit and puddle are true, Noxious can get into some very fun space controlling situations using those and EX FB since he doesn't need meter for invisibility or Basilisk.

Reptile still lives....for now.
 

Shade667

#StrongisthenewCute
He's not worse than Kenshi lol. His base character is better than his will ever be. Better mids, better mixups, better advancing strings/normals and better meterless damage. And even now, better universal armor.

Deceptive can still jail into 50/50's and he has a godlike flash parry.

Nimble still gets insane corner carry and damage.

And if the rumors of better recovery on spit and puddle are true, Noxious can get into some very fun space controlling situations using those and EX FB since he doesn't need meter for invisibility or Basilisk.

Reptile still lives....for now.
Deceptive doesnt jail into 50/50's, not anymore.
 

Shade667

#StrongisthenewCute
It has to be a universal change. When has a character been changed from a rushdown character to a zoner 18 months after the game is out?
 
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JDM

Noob
EX Pounce is pretty much useless now. Why would you use it over EX slide in any way?

EX Klaw not having armor anymore sucks but its still useful for the other two non deceptive variations.
 

THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
EX Pounce is pretty much useless now. Why would you use it over EX slide in any way?

EX Klaw not having armor anymore sucks but its still useful for the other two non deceptive variations.
I won't be surprised if it does more damage, like 14 or 15%.
 

STB Sgt Reed

Online Warrior
Never really used ex pounce anyway... and I hate that ex swipe lost armor UNLESS it's a universal thing that people seem to think it is... then I'm VERY HAPPY lol.

but what happened to acid puddle?
 

SaSSolino

Soul Stealing Loyalist
I hope they nerfed jumps too.

this "everything that launches doesn't have armor" thing would be ok with nerfed jumps, right now it's just a nerf to AAs, witch are already poor.
 
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JDM

Noob
I hope they nerfed jumps too.

this "everything that launches doesn't have armor" thing would be ok with nerfed jumps, right now it's just a nerf to aa, witch are already poor.
Oh man this is good point that I did not think about lol.

I really think one of the only launching armored moves they will keep (if not the only) will be Lao's spin btw. I don't see them taking away that armor.
 

Shade667

#StrongisthenewCute
Still. Why risk it? The move is slow and risky compared to a 6f Slide that goes nearly fullscreen. Idk. I barely use ex pounce as it is right now.
Maybe if they made it safe, could be a safer alternative to slide.
 
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THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
Still. Why risk it? The move is slow and risky compared to a 6f Slide that goes nearly fullscreen. Idk. I barely use ex pounce as it is right now.
I use it a lot. It's why I have been so up on Reptile. Vs Liu and Piercing, it's really valuable and makes up for having to deal with their zoning.
 

SaSSolino

Soul Stealing Loyalist
Oh man this is good point that I did not think about lol.

I really think one of the only launching armored moves they will keep (if not the only) will be Lao's spin btw. I don't see them taking away that armor.
don't see why, it's actually real quick on startup and probably is one of the moves that needs armor the less. (like cassie's ex flip kick)
 

JDM

Noob
don't see why, it's actually real quick on startup and probably is one of the moves that needs armor the less. (like cassie's ex flip kick)
Keeping armor would be it the premiere anti-air in the game. And since lao's offense has been toned down it's one of the only reasons to really play him.
 

JDM

Noob
I use it a lot. It's why I have been so up on Reptile. Vs Liu and Piercing, it's really valuable and makes up for having to deal with their zoning.
yeah as it stands I guess. But are you going to risk not punishing something with a slower move for an extra ~5 percent? Idk..

I don't really play reptile much anymore but I was thinking about picking him back up after this patch.