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ChoseDeath

Seriously Casual Player.
Don't get me wrong, grab immunity was a definite issue along with some other things. Hell, Grundy couldn't even catch a good Hawkgirl at all; it was almost as torturous as trying to move an inch with Lex against a good Zod lol.

Still, those characters really nailed the same feel you get playing Gief in SFV, even more so at times (landing a chip trait with Grundy so zoners can't do shit but try and go in against YOU now lol, for example, or nailing a 89% damage corner combo with him for the comeback). I've always mained grapplers and I can assure you it's the only game NRS at least nailed the feel of the archetype in, even if they gave grab immunity out like candy to sabotage that shit.
I had to Like your comment because it wouldn't let me Love And Have Sex with it. Absolutely agree!
 

B. Shazzy

NRS shill #42069
This was the max damage 1 bar stun combo I could find.


It gives him armor on his headbutt, shoulder and knee drop. I think he keeps the armor until one of those moves connects or is blocked.
Armor starts on the third frame and ends after the 3rd active frame and it goes away on whiff
 

Rip Torn

ALL I HAVE IS THE GREEN.
This was the max damage 1 bar stun combo I could find.




Armor starts on the third frame and ends after the 3rd active frame and it goes away on whiff
Yeah, it does go away on whiff but I think it's active on the first frame. Maybe not on wakeup?

EDIT: Nevermind, no armor on the first frame, wakeup or not :(

It does make ex headbutt go twice as far as it usually does, which is nice.
 
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B. Shazzy

NRS shill #42069
Nice. I didn't know cr.HP into whiffed headbutt into aegis into fully charged st.HK was a thing.
that's why i is the general and you is the private :cool:


i think urien breaks the chain of "low tier dlc characters". more characters should have variety like him.
 

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that's why i is the general and you is the private :cool:


i think urien breaks the chain of "low tier dlc characters". more characters should have variety like him.
I thought I was just an honorary Shazzling. I have obviously been promoted.

So you think Urien's better than Guile?
 

B. Shazzy

NRS shill #42069
I thought I was just an honorary Shazzling. I have obviously been promoted.

So you think Urien's better than Guile?
guile's gameplan works but he's not rewarded well enough to keep up with upper tiers and the offensive based nature of the game in general. for example a single mistake like the opponent getting a lucky 1/5 jump or fullscreen advancing move/ divekick puts him in vs the no mistakes i can make to keep you out with my stubs and bewms.

he needs respected defense (invincible meterless flash kick and give the aa version damage equal to grounded flash kick) and while his vtrigger is great, the specific "flash" boom that comes with it should grant me a followup combo like any other boom. then i would adjust frame data on some normals.

Urien seems like he just has all the tools from, damage, frame traps, vtrigger, projectiles, mobility, pokes etc. just more options and potential. Too early to call.
 

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ALL I HAVE IS THE GREEN.
guile's gameplan works but he's not rewarded well enough to keep up with upper tiers and the offensive based nature of the game in general. for example a single mistake like the opponent getting a lucky 1/5 jump or fullscreen advancing move/ divekick puts him in vs the no mistakes i can make to keep you out with my stubs and bewms.

he needs respected defense (invincible meterless flash kick and give the aa version damage equal to grounded flash kick) and while his vtrigger is great, the specific "flash" boom that comes with it should grant me a followup combo like any other boom. then i would adjust frame data on some normals.

Urien seems like he just has all the tools from, damage, frame traps, vtrigger, projectiles, mobility, pokes etc. just more options and potential. Too early to call.
Interesting. Yeah, I don't think Guile can keep up with the top tiers, from what I have seen. I thought he gets a combo off his v-trigger activation but maybe I misunderstood what you wrote there.

Urien seems pretty good. Some of the tech coming out with him is insane. He's only going to get better, and right now he's looking pretty good.

Side Note: Anyone else being forced to re-download the 1.07 update tonight? I have to download a 3 gig file just to play right now.
 

B. Shazzy

NRS shill #42069
Interesting. Yeah, I don't think Guile can keep up with the top tiers, from what I have seen. I thought he gets a combo off his v-trigger activation but maybe I misunderstood what you wrote there.

Urien seems pretty good. Some of the tech coming out with him is insane. He's only going to get better, and right now he's looking pretty good.

Side Note: Anyone else being forced to re-download the 1.07 update tonight? I have to download a 3 gig file just to play right now.
are you convinced now

guile wishes he had anything close to as gdlk as that. also lul Toolassisted subscribed to my channel i feel bad for him
 

@MylesWright_

I'll be back 3ing
This post is like a bird call for Myles to come whining about how he doesn't even get anything off a grab again.
I don't know what Urien does or doesn't need because I'm not using him. A 3 bar V-trigger to make your throw relevant is a big change from some of the original characters that will just throw you to death and force you to take a risk to stop them that could cost 30%

Season 2 pls
 

LionHeart

Whisper within a sigh
I don't know what Urien does or doesn't need because I'm not using him. A 3 bar V-trigger to make your throw relevant is a big change from some of the original characters that will just throw you to death and force you to take a risk to stop them that could cost 30%

Season 2 pls
I wouldn't hold my breath for season 2. I don't think the tiers will change much tbh.
 

@MylesWright_

I'll be back 3ing
I wouldn't hold my breath for season 2. I don't think the tiers will change much tbh.
I'm more interested in the gameplay changes then whether Capcom are pushing their main guy Ryu to be top tier. Season 2 could be a completely different game like 2013 SFxT was
 

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are you convinced now

guile wishes he had anything close to as gdlk as that. also lul Toolassisted subscribed to my channel i feel bad for him
I am convinced. What can Ryu do in that situation? Nothing. He has to hold those crouching shorts.