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haketh

haketh

Noob
KHTC Takgillo said:
I ll be down for later btw I want love heart and K' raped
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Theirs really nothing broken or needs to be adjusted about Love. She does what she's meant to do & that's control neutral well & punish, only thing I can think of is a hit box need on J. CD. K' though IMO is the best character in the game & it all has to do with Slide being safe & getting a trigger off of it so you can do slide, TriggerxF+D, Minute SpikexSlide DP for tons of damage. I would just make slide punishable on block like it normally is & maybe make it so you can't get a normal trigger off of it just EX. He would still be mad strong & possibly Top 3 still just not bonkers like he is now.
 
Gooberking

Gooberking

FGC Cannon Fodder
BanTheTesters said:
Yea im actually on the phone with my ISP as i type this lol
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I haven't tried on line recently, but it really seems like a game specific problem and I doubt there is anything your ISP can do. I remember the game warning me that NAT type 2 was a problem and could result in failure to connect to some people.

From what I could find, you wouldn't want to be type 1, it's not easy to manipulate, and MKX sure doesn't seem to have near as much of a problem with it as I was having with this game. I flat out didn't think online would even work for me at first it was so bad.

I think the update tweet said something about changes to matchmaking so maybe that means this?
 
KHTC Takgillo

KHTC Takgillo

Noob
haketh said:
Theirs really nothing broken or needs to be adjusted about Love. She does what she's meant to do & that's control neutral well & punish, only thing I can think of is a hit box need on J. CD. K' though IMO is the best character in the game & it all has to do with Slide being safe & getting a trigger off of it so you can do slide, TriggerxF+D, Minute SpikexSlide DP for tons of damage. I would just make slide punishable on block like it normally is & maybe make it so you can't get a normal trigger off of it just EX. He would still be mad strong & possibly Top 3 still just not bonkers like he is now.
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I just hate her a lot because of her crouching C that has a hitbox that make me sick I HATE IT SO MUCH
 
BanTheTesters

BanTheTesters

“My AGENT is tougher than you...”
Moderator
Gooberking said:
I remember the game warning me that NAT type 2 was a problem and could result in failure to connect to some people.
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Oh wow really? I head from the ISP and Sony NAT 2 was where you need to be at..
Glad the matchmaking patch is coming, im very hyped they are getting on the issues quickly for the community!
 
Gooberking

Gooberking

FGC Cannon Fodder
BanTheTesters said:
Oh wow really? I head from the ISP and Sony NAT 2 was where you need to be at..
Glad the matchmaking patch is coming, im very hyped they are getting on the issues quickly for the community!
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That's the impression I got trying to look into it. I'd never heard of NAT and still don't know what it is, but it sounded like it was a bad idea to not be 2.
I'm mega trash rocking a 15% win rate and was massively put off by there not being random unranked matching, so I' haven't felt real motivated to try and improve the situation. Taking the wait and see approach to see if they can figure something out.
 
bdizzle2700

bdizzle2700

gotta stay sharp!
Gooberking said:
That's the impression I got trying to look into it. I'd never heard of NAT and still don't know what it is, but it sounded like it was a bad idea to not be 2.
I'm mega trash rocking a 15% win rate and was massively put off by there not being random unranked matching, so I' haven't felt real motivated to try and improve the situation. Taking the wait and see approach to see if they can figure something out.
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Well we should play soon. If your down
 
TKB

TKB

Noob
Gooberking said:
Sure, as long as you don't mind winning. I was going to try playing people again this weekend at some point to see if I'm any better off.
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I'm down to play, it's ok I'm trash too. I got a fight stick for this game and it's taking time for me to adjust.
 
BanTheTesters

BanTheTesters

“My AGENT is tougher than you...”
Moderator
Man its been a while since ive played KOF (like not since launch year of KOF13 and 12 etc) but i had no idea king,robert and some of the other cast are SAFE after throwing projectiles half to fullscreen and are able to DP or throw punish..man its rough for a wrestler there days..might need a tweek me thinks lol
 
KHTC Takgillo

KHTC Takgillo

Noob
BanTheTesters said:
Man its been a while since ive played KOF (like not since launch year of KOF13 and 12 etc) but i had no idea king,robert and some of the other cast are SAFE after throwing projectiles half to fullscreen and are able to DP or throw punish..man its rough for a wrestler there days..might need a tweek me thinks lol
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If you get close enough you can attack them before they recover
 
Gooberking

Gooberking

FGC Cannon Fodder
I tried playing a little again when I could find people. I'm fairly certain I have no idea what the wake up game is for this. I feel like I'm getting obliterated by ham and once I'm down nothing works, I just keep getting hit. I don't think I'm getting MK style mixed, but whatever is going on is working on me big time. I've managed to get a whole 4 wins online so far - total. Granted I keep running back to MK and don't have much online time in, but it's been pretty brutal.

The CPU is never a great equivalent to people, but here the CPU feels extra worthless as a teaching tool. It really feels like a community only game without much of a community. People like to talk about how dead MKX is or will be soon, but as near as I can tell this game had zero casual appeal out the gate, and I'm not sure where that leaves me.

I do still think it seems like a good game. I just wish I showed more promise in it... and that it looked like Xrd.
 
Fellow_Swordsman

Fellow_Swordsman

"One mind, one blade."
Gooberking said:
I tried playing a little again when I could find people. I'm fairly certain I have no idea what the wake up game is for this. I feel like I'm getting obliterated by ham and once I'm down nothing works, I just keep getting hit. I don't think I'm getting MK style mixed, but whatever is going on is working on me big time. I've managed to get a whole 4 wins online so far - total. Granted I keep running back to MK and don't have much online time in, but it's been pretty brutal.

The CPU is never a great equivalent to people, but here the CPU feels extra worthless as a teaching tool. It really feels like a community only game without much of a community. People like to talk about how dead MKX is or will be soon, but as near as I can tell this game had zero casual appeal out the gate, and I'm not sure where that leaves me.

I do still think it seems like a good game. I just wish I showed more promise in it... and that it looked like Xrd.
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What exactly on wakeup is getting you? When you're knocked down, you have the options such as wakeup roll (if your opponent can't punish them), wake up dp's, and wake up block into guard cancel roll or blowback. KOF is a completely different game from most fighters. It definitely rewards offense, but defense is still a thing. If you're getting abused by hops, start checking them with stand A's. That's usually the universal normal to beat hops.
 
GAV

GAV

Resolution through knowledge and resolve.
This game looks amazing. Any chance it ever comes to X-Box?
 
Gooberking

Gooberking

FGC Cannon Fodder
Fellow_Swordsman said:
What exactly on wakeup is getting you? When you're knocked down, you have the options such as wakeup roll (if your opponent can't punish them), wake up dp's, and wake up block into guard cancel roll or blowback. KOF is a completely different game from most fighters. It definitely rewards offense, but defense is still a thing. If you're getting abused by hops, start checking them with stand A's. That's usually the universal normal to beat hops.
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To be honest, if I had a good answer for you as to the "what" then I probably wouldn't be having as much trouble with it.

Roll doesn't seem to get you away from an active attack which is what I'm getting popped by. It's really just failing to block. I think block into blowback seems like the best answer, but if I cant get a block in then the blowback part doesn't really do me any good.

If the game really is fundamentally aggressive then that too may be a big problem. I'm not playing it that way in the slightest. I've got about 25 years worth of me trying to be a reaction based player with meh reactions ingrained in my play. MKX taught me to be more offensive, but as soon as I don't know what is going on I start holding down back until something changes. And yes, I am holding down back along with the block button in MK a good deal of the time. Overheads tend to work pretty well against me.
 
Fellow_Swordsman

Fellow_Swordsman

"One mind, one blade."
Gooberking said:
To be honest, if I had a good answer for you as to the "what" then I probably wouldn't be having as much trouble with it.

Roll doesn't seem to get you away from an active attack which is what I'm getting popped by. It's really just failing to block. I think block into blowback seems like the best answer, but if I cant get a block in then the blowback part doesn't really do me any good.

If the game really is fundamentally aggressive then that too may be a big problem. I'm not playing it that way in the slightest. I've got about 25 years worth of me trying to be a reaction based player with meh reactions ingrained in my play. MKX taught me to be more offensive, but as soon as I don't know what is going on I start holding down back until something changes. And yes, I am holding down back along with the block button in MK a good deal of the time. Overheads tend to work pretty well against me.
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Yeah, the thing with KOF is that you can't win with reactions alone. I say it runs alone the line of reactions but also reads. If you try to just react to what your opponent does, you're eventually gonna get opened up because of how fast paced this game is.
 
GAV

GAV

Resolution through knowledge and resolve.
Fellow_Swordsman said:
Yeah, the thing with KOF is that you can't win with reactions alone. I say it runs alone the line of reactions but also reads. If you try to just react to what your opponent does, you're eventually gonna get opened up because of how fast paced this game is.
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shaowebb

shaowebb

Get your guns on. Sheriff is back.
GAV said:
I refuse to ever become a PC gamer. Have you ever met one that wasn't smug?
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I find normal PC players all the time. Since steam got so huge its not really like in the early 2000's when that stereotype was pretty much the norm. Most of PC is indies now and its kind of hard to lord about hardware specs about those titles.

I love PC because I'm a bigtime fan of shootem ups and a lot go there alongside of genres like platformers, card and puzzle.

I wouldn't cost myself gaming for a silly old stereotype thats nearly a decade out of context. If it wont come to X1 and its on PC, just get it for PC. A lot of other eastern fighters are only getting english versions on PC these days too like Blade Arcus, Koihime Enbu and Melty Blood.
 
GAV

GAV

Resolution through knowledge and resolve.
shaowebb said:
I find normal PC players all the time. Since steam got so huge its not really like in the early 2000's when that stereotype was pretty much the norm. Most of PC is indies now and its kind of hard to lord about hardware specs about those titles.

I love PC because I'm a bigtime fan of shootem ups and a lot go there alongside of genres like platformers, card and puzzle.

I wouldn't cost myself gaming for a silly old stereotype thats nearly a decade out of context. If it wont come to X1 and its on PC, just get it for PC. A lot of other eastern fighters are only getting english versions on PC these days too like Blade Arcus, Koihime Enbu and Melty Blood.
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Most PC gamers...
 
Gooberking

Gooberking

FGC Cannon Fodder
GAV said:
I refuse to ever become a PC gamer. Have you ever met one that wasn't smug?
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Good thing you've not played PC games then. Wouldn't want you to suddenly start feeling in anyway superior to others or be turned into one of those people, because the platform is different. I'm sure playing on console makes people immune to being a stereotyping generalist, or at least any that are probably are on that other console.

OMG, I think I just came off like a PC gamer.
Wait, maybe I am. Part time? I'm not sure anymore. Could be.

I do lack an Xbox so maybe I'm not impartial....but Xboxes are turning into PCs kind of. It's all confusing really.
 
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