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Question - Leatherface Is Leatherface under developed?

TommyKing5

But the saw... the saw is family
Not enough Leatherfaces in killer that I ran into abuse his 5f mid special. The one where he runs at you, it's such a crazy special and has really good pushback so he can backdash after or even try to back up and whiff punish. You can do some stuff like f1 and then b3(I think that's his low) for a pretty decent 50/50. Yeah you can fuzzy it but f12 just comes out so fast. Also I think his cancels are basically 100% useless until you have them conditioned or you mess with their reactions by holding the chainsaw for a while and then doing the mid. But really I don't think there's too much tech with him he's pretty simple
Yeah I use Berserker stance 1 religiously. It's really an incredible mid, and leads to so much damage if it lands and you decide to spend the bar. D3xxBS1 catches so many people off guard, I also use this religiously, much to my opponents dismay.

To be honest, I wish he was a little more in depth, but I'm happy that he's relatively straight-forward. In Killer at least. Butcher and Pretty Lady are a bit more tech heavy.
 

Hidan

Where the hell is Reiko's wheel kick
Don't have any, sorry. But I have definitely had moments where people dont know what i do and so they get kind of wrecked
Well that's a given, I was undefeated in random online matches when I was playing butcher because gimmicks, that didn't prove anything though

my regular coplayers were still beating me
 
My brother plays uses this guy and that mid is annoying as fuck, it randomly anti airs, is fast, has insane pushback making it safe, and the hit box is disjointed so you have no choice but to respect it.
 

CrazyFingers

The Power of Lame Compels You
My brother plays uses this guy and that mid is annoying as fuck, it randomly anti airs, is fast, has insane pushback making it safe, and the hit box is disjointed so you have no choice but to respect it.
It's a solid tool that he needs tbh. Without that he just falls apart
 

Meep8345

Noob
I didn't know it wasn't a true 5f mid but still that thing is crazy lol. There is very little risk to just revving it up full screen and running at somebody plus if they like jump somehow you can just cancel like a list f3 canceling on whiff lol. Really that's his only dirt and a restand setup that you have to backdash to get out of the unblockable so it's basically a 50/50. Can't remember how but my friend used it 24/7
 

CrazyFingers

The Power of Lame Compels You
I didn't know it wasn't a true 5f mid but still that thing is crazy lol. There is very little risk to just revving it up full screen and running at somebody plus if they like jump somehow you can just cancel like a list f3 canceling on whiff lol. Really that's his only dirt and a restand setup that you have to backdash to get out of the unblockable so it's basically a 50/50. Can't remember how but my friend used it 24/7
The restans set up is armorable now after the nerfs so it's not as strong. The mid is from his stance which is why it isn't a true 5f mid and he can cancel it because it's part of the stance. He has more dirt than just those two things but the dirt requires a little more effort than other characters. He's a lot better than people give him credit for, same with Butcher, who honestly the more I play him the more I might think the character is better than Killer.
 

Jeremy KO

*insert kotal kahn gibberish here*
He's a solid character, the problem is that the top tier are so top tier that it more or less makes the solid characters like Leatherface next to irrelevant.
 

CrazyFingers

The Power of Lame Compels You
He's a solid character, the problem is that the top tier are so top tier that it more or less makes the solid characters like Leatherface next to irrelevant.
Pretty much this. You'll find that leatherface can at least go toe to toe with a lot of characters, with some issues with intense zoning like predator. But the fact that he can't compete with some of the top tier (except Tarkatan! I think he might do decent ish against tarkatan but I haven't played nearly enough of that matchup to know it well enough) it's really just a matter of waiting to see what is done in the upcoming patch. We have the damage, we even have some of the dirt, now all we need is the buttons and the top tier taken down a few pegs. Then, we can start wearing people's faces and feel good about it :p
 

CrazyFingers

The Power of Lame Compels You
funny thing is my brother switched from butcher cuz he thought it was better but realized butcher is really really good
it's definitely a close call for me while others will probably definitively say the order for how good his three variations are Killer then Pretty Lady and ending with Butcher but for me it's at least a tie between Butcher and Killer for the best variation but that's a rare opinion it seems.
 
it's definitely a close call for me while others will probably definitively say the order for how good his three variations are Killer then Pretty Lady and ending with Butcher but for me it's at least a tie between Butcher and Killer for the best variation but that's a rare opinion it seems.
I'm with you I find butcher so much more annoying to deal with tbh. I hope my bro never switches back
 

CrazyFingers

The Power of Lame Compels You
I'm with you I find butcher so much more annoying to deal with tbh. I hope my bro never switches back
The power of him having a useable mid and a useable low is one of the big deals. It is so much easier to open up the opponent if you have 50/50's. That paired with his solid buttons and pretty damn gross corner pseudo vortex that lands you 35% on the low and 40% on the overhead, which can mean you're dead VERY fast, makes this character quite a nightmare.