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CrazyFingers

CrazyFingers

The Power of Lame Compels You
blue dragon said:
Thank you, do you think any of sub variations will have changes
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I believe some universal sub strings/normals will be adjusted and that unbreakable and cryo will hopefully get some love, cryo less than unbreakable because that character is on the cusp of being good.
 
Meep8345

Meep8345

Noob
Are we still on about tier lists? Really I think stunt double should be A+ and same with gunslinger. Gunslinger is so good and really outside of having no good mid and bad armor he has very few weakness. Call me crazy but imo bo in bartitsu belongs in S tier or at least A+ a d4 like that is insane plus his jump in is great and he's got mixups for days it seems. I really don't know why everybody acts like bo is so shitty when this characters has some crazy ass mixups and a throw from an overhead and low. Also Cassie belongs in A+ because she still has godlike neutral, a consistent s1 AA, and a vortex. Yeah it costs meter but taking away their option and forcing them to hold something like a throw or a 50/50 is so good.
 
blue dragon

blue dragon

Noob
CrazyFingers said:
I believe some universal sub strings/normals will be adjusted and that unbreakable and cryo will hopefully get some love, cryo less than unbreakable because that character is on the cusp of being good.
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Thanks for the reply, I love cryo and just beginning to learn gm
 
Mista_Snacks

Mista_Snacks

Noob
Spec ops is definitely A tier at least, she's got same strings and ability to make her 50/50s safe with ex flip. She's hard to read with American way giving you an "option select" at the end of her 50/50 strings, she's got armor breaking set ups and with with the right reads you can pretty much kill someone without them having a chance. People forget just how good EX missile is
Her corner damage is still pretty high and standing 1 is a great anti air.

She does struggle with good zoning since her options are bad, and mileena makes you feel like you can't play but other than that she's really good

Also buff spec ops
 
Scott The Scot

Scott The Scot

Where there is smoke, there is cancer.
Mista_Snacks said:
Spec ops is definitely A tier at least, she's got same strings and ability to make her 50/50s safe with ex flip. She's hard to read with American way giving you an "option select" at the end of her 50/50 strings, she's got armor breaking set ups and with with the right reads you can pretty much kill someone without them having a chance. People forget just how good EX missile is
Her corner damage is still pretty high and standing 1 is a great anti air.

She does struggle with good zoning since her options are bad, and mileena makes you feel like you can't play but other than that she's really good

Also buff spec ops
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Hmmm Cyber Sub Zero can kill somebody with the right reads. She gets hard to block setups after conditioning people or making a read on if they'll tech roll, short delay, long delay, not tech roll. American way is punishable on block. EX Missles are important to Spec Ops so you can't just make every 50/50 safe with EX Flip because then you have less meter for EX Missile.

Not sure where in any tier list she'd fit though.
 
CrazyFingers

CrazyFingers

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Scott The Scot said:
Hmmm Cyber Sub Zero can kill somebody with the right reads. She gets hard to block setups after conditioning people or making a read on if they'll tech roll, short delay, long delay, not tech roll. American way is punishable on block. EX Missles are important to Spec Ops so you can't just make every 50/50 safe with EX Flip because then you have less meter for EX Missile.

Not sure where in any tier list she'd fit though.
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Ok so this is a bit off topic but what the FUCK does american way even do? I rarely see this character and i certainly don't play her and that move confuses me.
 
EdenianWarrior

EdenianWarrior

Noob
CrazyFingers said:
Those two variations are monstrous. EX Fade is one of the best defensive tools in the game and pounces from ravenous make it one of the hardest characters to read.
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Ok cool. Most people don't give very good reasons. However, Ravenous needs these things:
-B1,2 1+3 should be a restand & B1,2 1+3 UU2 should offer at least 4% health back.
-More advantage to the 1st & 2nd parts of High Pounce & Low Pounce.
 
Scott The Scot

Scott The Scot

Where there is smoke, there is cancer.
CrazyFingers said:
Ok so this is a bit off topic but what the FUCK does american way even do? I rarely see this character and i certainly don't play her and that move confuses me.
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It's used for swag, taunting your opponent and hitconfirming but it's like -9 so I guess it makes your 50/50's safeER buuuut not safe :p
 
CrazyFingers

CrazyFingers

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EdenianWarrior said:
Ok cool. Most people don't give very good reasons. However, Ravenous needs these things:
-B1,2 1+3 should be a restand & B1,2 1+3 UU2 should offer at least 4% health back.
-More advantage to the 1st & 2nd parts of High Pounce & Low Pounce.
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I think if we made it more advantageous on the first part than it is on the second part, we could add an element of choice to her gameplan where she can either go for plus frames for better OKI or go for the pure damage, what do you think?
 
TyCarter35

TyCarter35

Bonafide Jax scrub
Bo Rai Cho has way too many problems to be even considered A tier. Bartitsu has no way of getting in and his armor ain't great and not safe and lack of a solid mid and too many gaps makes him B tier at least and mobility hinders him greatly which overshadows his good damage. Otherwise it's a solid tier list
 
Compbros

Compbros

Man of Tomorrow
CrazyFingers said:
Make your case then!
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Play me, I'll make her seem S!


Seriously, she's an A. Hard to blockables, meterless 40+ percent combos in the corner, able to control the entire screen, get-in-free tool for a bar, wins most trades. Her main problems are lack of good defensive options, inability to cancel strings into rockets that can't be poked out of or full combo punished (24xxrocket, 4xxrocket, and F4xxrocket are about it), and how much she requires reads considering the huge startup and meh recovery of rockets.



Edit: American Way is pure gimmix, if you know how to counter it it is almost completely useless.


Edit 2: She's a good counter zoner. Even with Shinnok being a bad matchup for Cassie all around I haven't lost to a set against a good Shinnok in roughly 8 months this includes Zaf and, just a few days ago, Playing2Win.
 
EdenianWarrior

EdenianWarrior

Noob
Compbros said:
Play me, I'll make her seem S!


Seriously, she's an A. Hard to blockables, meterless 40+ percent combos in the corner, able to control the entire screen, get-in-free tool for a bar, wins most trades. Her main problems are lack of good defensive options, inability to cancel strings into rockets that can't be poked out of or full combo punished (24xxrocket, 4xxrocket, and F4xxrocket are about it), and how much she requires reads considering the huge startup and meh recovery of rockets.



Edit: American Way is pure gimmix, if you know how to counter it it is almost completely useless.
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But what does American Way actually do?
 
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