Dankster Morgan
It is better this way
Tarkatan Alien is my secondary character.I think ill stick to subzero hes just fun to play. Dankster morgan what is your second character choice if i may ask?
Tarkatan Alien is my secondary character.I think ill stick to subzero hes just fun to play. Dankster morgan what is your second character choice if i may ask?
That's like a Spider being friends with a Fly xDTarkatan Alien is my secondary character.
If you can't beat em, join emThat's like a Spider being friends with a Fly xD
TRUTHIf you can't beat em, join em
Then I'll play against you with Cryo. xDCryo is OP and 11~hammer should be banned from tourney.
Hi dankster Morgan, I am beginning to learn gym, I love cryo, I am labing the shit out of him and will do for months, learning the differences for Klone usage of male vs female, open field vs corner and so on, I have notice in forums you are a gm main, I have done a corner kombo and would you tell me if this is viable in playSub-Zero isn't a rush down character so he may not be the best fit. And the clone is used for a lot more than hiding behind.
He can, but he's the aggressive guy there. With some tweaks he can be a deadly fighter.cryomancer is a complete machine in the right hands, he ight not be top tier but he can definitely play the game
You are correct, but some of the time the f3xxdb2 does not freeze the opponent in the air but instead the db2 releases the klone statue and with the opponent in stun from being hit with the f3(post 242) I then do a bf4~now the opponent hits the klone from the bf4 ~njp~jip~bf4 and the damage is 27 from initial plus reset 20, give it a try, I get both results depending on the height I do f3xxdb2, if I do the f3xxdb2 at below shoulder height the Klone is a whiff, please give it try, but notice you will get two results depending on the height you do f3xxdb2@blue dragon , I'm, also, a GM mainer. I can imagine the combo you're trying to do. Let me rewrite this string.
F33~EX Burst (this is the Frost Bomb)> 242> F3~Ice Klone> NJP> FJP> Slide.
I don't know where did you find this 47%. As far as I can tell, this combo packs around 35%. If you want, you can pack more than this. Try this:
F33~EX Burst> D1> B12~Ice Klone> NJP> FJP> IA FJP> 1> B12~Burst or 123~Slide or 112 or F12.
If you have Ice Klone as a starter, NEVER do the EX Burst. What you used for starting in the corner is also one of the mixups leading to dangerous and hard as fuck combos.
The most known combo that can get 47% is this:
Ice Klone> FJP> B12~Burst> D1> D1> B12~Ice Klone> NJP> FJP> F12 or 112.
To get 48% switch the KO enders to 123~Slide. To get 55% switch FJP into X-Ray. To get 57% switch the FJP starter into B2> 4~Burst> B12~Ice Klone and then do the X-Ray ender.
Sub Zero has the advantage against them ONLY in the corner.
Will test it out when I get my motivation back. This mess in my living room took my motivation away.You are correct, but some of the time the f3xxdb2 does not freeze the opponent in the air but instead the db2 releases the klone statue and with the opponent in stun from being hit with the f3(post 242) I then do a bf4~now the opponent hits the klone from the bf4 ~njp~jip~bf4 and the damage is 27 from initial plus reset 20, give it a try, I get both results depending on the height I do f3xxdb2
LOL, I love the honesty and straight forward reply, be patient and really concentrate on the timing of the f3xxdb2, worst case senario you just get a whiff and build meter at the same timeWill test it out when I get my motivation back. This mess in my living room took my motivation away.
This worst case scenario is what I hate the most. I can time just fine. Just need to lab it a bit to see how much does it packs by itself. I, also, might do the F3~Burst to do some comparison in DMG.LOL, I love the honesty and straight forward reply, be patient and really concentrate on the timing of the f3xxdb2, worst case senario you just get a whiff and build meter at the same time
I suppose it can work, but it is best to keep it meterless. The combo thread in the SZ forums is a great place to startHi dankster Morgan, I am beginning to learn gym, I love cryo, I am labing the shit out of him and will do for months, learning the differences for Klone usage of male vs female, open field vs corner and so on, I have notice in forums you are a gm main, I have done a corner kombo and would you tell me if this is viable in play
F33xxdb1+R2~242~f3(f2 will work as well)xxdb2 from this point I either get Klone statue and before the opponent recover from f3 I do bf4 which freezes the opponent horizontally in the air and then I do njp~jip~bf4 for a total of 47% (reset included) or after the bd2 I freeze the opponent horizontally in the air then follow with njp~jip~bf4 for 33%, I can also get the former response with females, but not as frequently, you also have to cancel f3 into the Klone while the opponent is at shoulder level as they are descending from the 242, this works, ant thoughts would be appreciated, thanks
You mention " the most common combo that can get 47% is this:@blue dragon , I'm, also, a GM mainer. I can imagine the combo you're trying to do. Let me rewrite this string.
F33~EX Burst (this is the Frost Bomb)> 242> F3~Ice Klone> NJP> FJP> Slide.
I don't know where did you find this 47%. As far as I can tell, this combo packs around 35%. If you want, you can pack more than this. Try this:
F33~EX Burst> D1> B12~Ice Klone> NJP> FJP> IA FJP> 1> B12~Burst or 123~Slide or 112 or F12.
If you have Ice Klone as a starter, NEVER do the EX Burst. What you used for starting in the corner is also one of the mixups leading to dangerous and hard as fuck combos.
The most known combo that can get 47% is this:
Ice Klone> FJP> B12~Burst> D1> D1> B12~Ice Klone> NJP> FJP> F12 or 112.
To get 48% switch the KO enders to 123~Slide. To get 55% switch FJP into X-Ray. To get 57% switch the FJP starter into B2> 4~Burst> B12~Ice Klone and then do the X-Ray ender.
Sub Zero has the advantage against them ONLY in the corner.
I genuinely think he gets bodied by the same characters Grandmaster does, just as badly. D'Vorah rapes Grandmaster, but he can at least do some shit to her if he gets her in the corner with the close clone because of D'Vorah's collision box being bigger than say- Mileena. Cryo has none of that and he just gets raped in the neutral just as bad, D'Vorah hits harder, safer, and face fucks him in footsies. Basically the same as Grandmaster. Alien and Mileena shit on him but he really brutalizes them in the corner (Alien with close clone), you get where I'm going with this.Cryo has a lot of 4-6 matchups, but other than Alien and Grandmaster, nobody really dominates him. His only real problem is that he gets nothing free in the neutral. You'll have to work for your anti-airs and whiff punishes. That's not a reason not to use him, though. In a game with a run input, an honest neutral game is a first-world problem, and no matter what character you're fighting, everyone eats a dick if they guess wrong on blocked jump-ins against Cryo. If someone wants to learn the fundamentals of MKX, he's like the best character to play.
What kind of dick are you talking about, if it's big floppy donkey dick, then I says that is some mouth fullCryo has a lot of 4-6 matchups, but other than Alien and Grandmaster, nobody really dominates him. His only real problem is that he gets nothing free in the neutral. You'll have to work for your anti-airs and whiff punishes. That's not a reason not to use him, though. In a game with a run input, an honest neutral game is a first-world problem, and no matter what character you're fighting, everyone eats a dick if they guess wrong on blocked jump-ins against Cryo. If someone wants to learn the fundamentals of MKX, he's like the best character to play.
If you lose to a decent Cryomancer then I would hate to see you play against any decent top tier character.Cryo is OP and 11~hammer should be banned from tourney.
Try F412/B1D4I will look very closely at his normals to discover the confusing aspect that you mentioned, thanks again
None. Generally, Cryo is never a better option than grandmaster. The only reason to play Cryo is because it conforms better to your inherent style of play. My only mention of grandmaster was that the Cryo-Grandmaster matchup is virtually unwinnable.Where do you think Cryo fares better than Grandmaster here?
I'm not a specialist by any means, and for the most part, I agree that all those characters rough up Cryo. However, most of those are not unwinnable, IMO (except for Demolition; that's probably unwinnable at the highest level). I haven't grinded out those matches by any means, but at the end of the day, a knockdown goes ridiculously far with Cryomancer. The core mechanics of MKX leave almost no one protected from a blocked jump-in or run in D+4, and in many situations, that's all Cryo needs.I genuinely think he gets bodied by the same characters Grandmaster does, just as badly. D'Vorah rapes Grandmaster, but he can at least do some shit to her if he gets her in the corner with the close clone because of D'Vorah's collision box being bigger than say- Mileena. Cryo has none of that and he just gets raped in the neutral just as bad, D'Vorah hits harder, safer, and face fucks him in footsies. Basically the same as Grandmaster. Alien and Mileena shit on him but he really brutalizes them in the corner (Alien with close clone), you get where I'm going with this.
Imo Grandmaster's hardest matchups are
Use the Enhanced only to get your opponent away from you and force them back in the corner or to prevent their attacks in the corner. Worth one bar in some occasions.You mention " the most common combo that can get 47% is this:
Klone~jip~b12xxdb1~d1~d1~b12xxdb2~njp~jip~f12. I will work on this, one question is it db1 or db1+R2, the enhanced makes sense, will also work on the kombo you modified of the f33xxdb1+R2
He needs some tweaks before being viable.Cryomancer needs a damage buff to be viable IMO.
Needs to get mid 60s for 1 bar and he'll be ok.