Tech - Cyrax Cyrax Meterless HTB Armor Breaking Setup!

MadeOfMetal said:

yesz if you leave out the extra metered bomb in middle, but realize that only works if they block it and stand there, cuz if they jump/Armor/or backdash twice they get out of it, not to mention Xray. basically it only works with a very hard read that they will either Armor forwrd or block first and second hit of string.

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MadeOfMetal said:

I guess you can use different normals but b1 and others obnly work for different responses they will do. so everything to do with his double bomb armor break combos, are hard reads on Cyraxs part

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Thanks. But i'm talking about that S4 into EX Bomb part

Is it practical? I tried and it's very random to have the EX low bomb hit at the right spot to get the combo.

Bruno-NeoSpace said:

Thanks. But i'm talking about that S4 into EX Bomb part

Is it practical? I tried and it's very random to have the EX low bomb hit at the right spot to get the combo.

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ohh i do that combo without the EX bomb, if you njp them into a mid high bomb you can step back and lay close and mid low bomb to pull same thing off.


but reguardless it looks cool.

Bruno-NeoSpace said:

Thanks. But i'm talking about that S4 into EX Bomb part

Is it practical? I tried and it's very random to have the EX low bomb hit at the right spot to get the combo.

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i wasnt saying your shit wanst cool, or viable, just saying i used another combo with less meter to acomplish the same thing, but yeah it gets the job done, only reason i could see doing what you did, would be if the Metered Bomb actually Provided enough advantage that it would limit there time in which they could react to said Setup.

but i don't think it does.

Cyrax needs just a few buffs to get in a good state.

they just hit him to hard, right now he has to spend bar to make shit safe, and is quit gimmicky. When you can choose many characters with Safe Mixups meterless all the way to: Psuedo unblockables/Cancel pressure or full map coverage with the safe mixups to boot.

just no reason to use him over the rest of cast.

him and rest of Triborg need some love especially CSZ.

MadeOfMetal said:

i wasnt saying your shit wanst cool, or viable, just saying i used another combo with less meter to acomplish the same thing, but yeah it gets the job done, only reason i could see doing what you did, would be if the Metered Bomb actually Provided enough advantage that it would limit there time in which they could react to said Setup.

but i don't think it does.

Cyrax needs just a few buffs to get in a good state.

they just hit him to hard, right now he has to spend bar to make shit safe, and is quit gimmicky. When you can choose many characters with Safe Mixups meterless all the way to: Psuedo unblockables/Cancel pressure or full map coverage with the safe mixups to boot.

just no reason to use him over the rest of cast.

him and rest of Triborg need some love especially CSZ.

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I don't think that Smoke, Sektor and Cyrax should get buffed (maybe a 6f S4... great anti air )... only CSZ and just small buffs. I think that it would be better if the top characters get nerfed a lot and the A+ characters get some nerfs. Imagine all characters at the same level of mileena and alien... now imagine all characters at the same level of kitana and bo rai cho...

Please, can you say the inputs of those combos and setups that you have said? And what do you do against roll with backdash when you do the two bombs OKI setup?

Bruno-NeoSpace said:

I don't think that Smoke, Sektor and Cyrax should get buffed (maybe a 6f S4... great anti air )... only CSZ and just small buffs. I think that it would be better if the top characters get nerfed. Imagine all characters at the same level of mileena and alien... now imagine all characters at the same level of kitana and bo rai cho...

Please, can you say the inputs of those combos and setups that you have said? And what do you do against roll with backdash when you do the two bombs OKI setup?

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Just my opinion, Nerfing top tier and buffing bottom alone does nothing, it just changes the tiers, and creates new problems. but Cyrax and CSZ need buffs, thos two where nerfed as a What if they are op before the tournamnet. and didn't even get a full month of gameplay to know what was what.

Cyrax was my main, i know him in and out. he needs it,

and for you matchup agianst mileena, Dont use Cyrax agianst her.


hold on i have a phone call, i will just upload a simple version of the combo so you know. and ill also try to show you how to Armor break her roll. but she can keep you out of range with her B12 and your F13 will wiff if she stays at max range and backs up at frame perfect timing. trust me. but ill show you in a bit

MadeOfMetal said:

Just my opinion, Nerfing top tier and buffing bottom alone does nothing, it just changes the tiers, and creates new problems. but Cyrax and CSZ need buffs, thos two where nerfed as a What if they are op before the tournamnet. and didn't even get a full month of gameplay to know what was what.

Cyrax was my main, i know him in and out. he needs it,

and for you matchup agianst mileena, Dont use Cyrax agianst her.


hold on i have a phone call, i will just upload a simple version of the combo so you know. and ill also try to show you how to Armor break her roll. but she can keep you out of range with her B12 and your F13 will wiff if she stays at max range and backs up at frame perfect timing. trust me. but ill show you in a bit

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Thx a lot!!

Also, yesterday I played with a guy that was doing Tech roll with backdash and it was getting out of my two bombs OKI setup is there a way to beat tech roll with backdash in that setup?

Bruno-NeoSpace said:

is there a way to beat tech roll with backdash in that setup?

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F3 or run B3D4

Video uploading now: once its on youtube ill have it here.



@Bruno-NeoSpace and BTW, thats the problem with him thats why its gimmicky, all of Cyrax's setups are not a 1 fixes all solution, they only work for one response each. like F131 with catch back dash and launch, and B1 with catch crossover, and B3D4 catches Armored wakeup instant.

but if they do anything else then well you are kinda screwed.

but as for Backdash then roll, you would do the same setup im talking about, but make it how you would like at whatever damage you like: like i said im uploading a simple version: and simply use B2 that will catch backdash and stop roll with the bomb explosion.


PS: nothing stops her normal ball roll, cuz it has no hitbox during certain parts of travel, she is a really bad matchup for him.


@Bruno-NeoSpace there you go. edit combo how you like.

Bruno-NeoSpace said:

Thx a lot!!

Also, yesterday I played with a guy that was doing Tech roll with backdash and it was getting out of my two bombs OKI setup is there a way to beat tech roll with backdash in that setup?

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yeah tech roll fucks everything. you have to run cancel into B3D4. thats what im saying, nothing is universal that video will be ther ein a sec

Reaper said:

F3 or run B3D4

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Hey, that setup using EX bomb then another bomb... very nice!!

But which one is better?

This version


(does it work against instant wakeup? i mean armored wakeup without tech roll)

or this version?


(does it work against delayed wake-up?)

and thx a lot for sharing all those cyrax's techs and combos!!!

Bruno-NeoSpace said:

Hey, that setup using EX bomb then another bomb... very nice!!

But which one is better?

This version

(does it work against instant wakeup? i mean armored wakeup without tech roll)

or this version?

(does it work against delayed wake-up?)

and thx a lot for sharing all those cyrax's techs and combos!!!

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The second setup is the better one, ex Bomb hits anyway and continuing B3D4 into U4 still works on delayed wakeup

Bruno-NeoSpace said:

Hey, that setup using EX bomb then another bomb... very nice!!

But which one is better?

This version

(does it work against instant wakeup? i mean armored wakeup without tech roll)

or this version?

(does it work against delayed wake-up?)

and thx a lot for sharing all those cyrax's techs and combos!!!

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NP: and my no meter one, works against Instant wakeup, and Delay, but if they Tech roll or Mileena does normal ball roll her BS roll goes through, and it works iff opponent blocks the B3 and incorrectly blocks the rest.

and i would say Metered bomb is not a bad idea and it definitely gives less options for them if you decide to wait and bait, but for the agressive approach i always used meterless and then off Metered Air grab, i could setup how i wanted including, standard close low bomb to a crossover jip. so i would be safe if thewy armored tech or anything and if they froze up i get an easy HTB OH to Low that is like a 1-4 frame link that can be looped all the way to the corner for no bars.

MadeOfMetal said:

NP: and my no meter one, works against Instant wakeup, and Delay, but if they Tech roll or Mileena does normal ball roll her BS roll goes through, and it works iff opponent blocks the B3 and incorrectly blocks the rest.

and i would say Metered bomb is not a bad idea and it definitely gives less options for them if you decide to wait and bait, but for the agressive approach i always used meterless and then off Metered Air grab, i could setup how i wanted including, standard close low bomb to a crossover jip. so i would be safe if thewy armored tech or anything and if they froze up i get an easy HTB OH to Low that is like a 1-4 frame link that can be looped all the way to the corner for no bars.

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Very nice Vid showing it?

Bruno-NeoSpace said:

Very nice Vid showing it?

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something dumb and simple i do, after is, i lay a close bomb, then crossover and jip for an easy 1-4 frame HTB. also with that sanme option you can Meter bomb and Crossover JIP then recover and repeat the Meter bomb will stop a tech roll and special and if you land it right you can break armor and convert. just an idea.


i just feel Cyrax is lacking in the neutral, and that he could benifit from some small things like. maybe his MB Tele(Shrapnel Port) could launch. i mean you are paying a bar for his only armor that doe not launch and it only does 11% and is punishable.

then i was thinking maybe his Net could get some pushback like before, or it could hold a bit longer, right now it has a bug, where during the last part of it for quite some time, opponent can hit you while still in it and perform moves including block while in net! that is beyond dumb.

and i don't know if you utilize his Teleport in middle of combos to build meter like i do, but every now and then it will glitch, and he will have added recovery frames like double the amount of normal teleport none ex version and not be able to continue combo.


also i would like to see him get at least Metered Net back in combo. so he can spend a bar, (which by the way Metered net decreases damage like hella,) to use net after a bomb has connected.


most of his problem that i think is he only has DB1 EX to make combos safe and it cost meter. he needs that meter for conversions as well as Gaps, and stopping pressure.

@Bruno-NeoSpace i edited and updated the post here.

Bruno-NeoSpace said:

Thx a lot!!

Also, yesterday I played with a guy that was doing Tech roll with backdash and it was getting out of my two bombs OKI setup is there a way to beat tech roll with backdash in that setup?

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There are ways to get an anti tech roll set up but it's tricky.

Two examples here. Don't have the times though.

In the first video you can see the delayed wake-up being blown up by run B3D4
In the second you see tech roll jump back being blown up by run B3D4 and F3 (it will blow up backdashes too if done properly)

Reaper said:

In the first video you can see the delayed wake-up being blown up by run B3D4
In the second you see tech roll jump back being blown up by run B3D4 and F3 (it will blow up backdashes too if done properly)

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Very good

Nice anti-air combo... mine does around 22%


but yours does around 28%... i'll try yours