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Future of MKX on PC; MKXL Enhanced Online PC BETA

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EntropicByDesign

It's all so very confusing.
*looks around*

Welp.

I mean.

I am carefully optimistic.

How is Jax these days? I havent followed the game AT ALL since they told PC players to fuck off officially, so its been months.. this being my first competitive fighter, and just flat out enjoying it though, I cant not come back and play.
 

Tanno

The Fantasy is the Reality of the Mind
you expect them to give you all a 30 dollar dlc package for free because you had to wait 6 months for a free one?
I don't think that we can expect that. Everybody paid for the XL pack in the consoles. I think it will be the same for the PC gamers, too, however, they might give a brave compensative discount for the huge waiting they did put the PC gamers through.
 

trufenix

bye felicia
I don't think that we can expect that. Everybody paid for the XL pack in the consoles. I think it will be the same for the PC gamers, too, however, they might give a brave compensative discount for the huge waiting they did put the PC gamers through.
Perhaps I have misunderstood. I always thought the great injustice was that you were denied the XL patch, the netcode update, the pit, ie all the content consoles got for free.

Are you telling me that even when that is added to the game people will still expect KP2 to be discounted or free because you had to wait for the opportunity to buy it?
 

Tanno

The Fantasy is the Reality of the Mind
Perhaps I have misunderstood. I always thought the great injustice was that you were denied the XL patch, the netcode update, the pit, ie all the content consoles got for free.

Are you telling me that even when that is added to the game people will still expect KP2 to be discounted or free because you had to wait for the opportunity to buy it?
I'm not saying about that. The XL Pack includes both KP1 and KP2 as a whole in the consoles and we had to pay €20 for this. I only say that they need to compensate somehow the PC gamers for what they have gone through. What they did during HVS era was the lowest form of "fuck off."
 

trufenix

bye felicia
I'm not saying about that. The XL Pack includes both KP1 and KP2 as a whole in the consoles and we had to pay €20 for this. I only say that they need to compensate somehow the PC gamers for what they have gone through. What they did during HVS era was the lowest form of "fuck off."
I just want to understand. You want free dlc because it took them a long time to fix a broken game?
 

Tanno

The Fantasy is the Reality of the Mind
I just want to understand. You want free dlc because it took them a long time to fix a broken game?
I don't need the free DLC. I'm sorry for the PC gamers, and I want to play there with them. They deserve to get it either free or discounted. And I think it took them 1 year to fix this game.
 
At the very least WB should offer a steam code for those that bought the XL/kp2 version on console. I originally bought X/season pass on pc and had no intention of buying on console but when they gave us PC users the shaft I had no choice but to buy the console version so I could enjoy kp2 and improved netcode.

If by some generous chance they do offer KP2 for free as compensation for PC, I will be buying the season pass for inj2 for sure. WB should be smart to understand the good will this would foster to PC owners.
 

DronesUK

Noob
I am happy XL is coming to PC I told my self I would not buy it after MK9 for PC but I made the mistake anyway. Since then just been playing PS4. I play most the cast but I could not care less if the DLC will be included. I think they should atleast offer KP1 and have KP2 at a discount.

Looking forward to playing the PC community once again, see you in game.
 

EntropicByDesign

It's all so very confusing.
I just want to understand. You want free dlc because it took them a long time to fix a broken game?
Well, yes. Absolutely. Its far from unprecedented in the business world to customers 'freebies' when a business has thoroughly screwed up in some way. Its been done with DLC for other games in the past as well. Its not an unreasonable ask by any means. Its an unreasonable DEMAND - but not an ask.

TL;DR -
Do we 'deserve' free DLC? Not exactly.
Is it likely we will get free DLC? No.
Is asking for free DLC outside the realm of what is reasonable? No.
Is this somehow damaging or unfair to console players because they bought KP2? No/Debatable/Not the issue at hand.
Will you continue this argument past this absurdly long MKX-is-downloading-post? No. Ive made my point(s)



PC players bought the game and it's available DLC and paid for it, just like console players did.. The difference however is that for months at LAUNCH the game was unplayable by numerous people. I was actually able to play at launch, but after the first patch I wasn't. The PC version then had a series of ongoing issues we had to weather in order to play. Of course the netcode was a cross everyone had to bare (yes, that's an over the top way of putting it) but it was still an issue and counts on the over-all tally of annoyances.

After sticking with a game for months and months that was unplayable for as much, if not longer, than it was playable, and buying the DLC and such and just expecting/hoping/supporting, we were treated to the news that more DLC was coming along with improvements that would make the game playable online in a REAL way, along with additional tweaks and balance changes and blah blah. Except we weren't invited. We had been shafted, and pooped on, and ignored and when light was FINALLY starting to shine on the near-future of the game, PC players were simply told to piss off. We weren't given any apology that I'm aware of, or any recompense. Just shown that they were making MKX the game it could/should have been, and we weren't allowed to play it because our PC money didnt count.

We had paid the same as you all as well as (at least some of us) stuck by a very thoroughly broken product and tried like hell to make it viable and fun. We practiced and read and researched and learned but could not actually play in the end. Not only did we not get the netcode and last DLC, but we receive no balance patches either. No updates of that nature.. Which effectively kills a competitive game. I cant practice with/against Tremor.. In my version he's strong. In the current (I believe, I haven't followed MKX in a while) version he's been nerfed. How can I practice, or do much of anything effectively when playing a version who's characters are many many changes distant from what I have access to?

Now, I'm not saying we HAVE to have free DLC. I'm not lighting my torch and grabbing my pitchfork and preparing to bitch and whine because I finally have something I've wanted since day one of MKX (the netcode) - but now I want MOAR. All I'm saying is that since we were treated very poorly by WB/NRS, some kind of olive branch wouldn't go amiss.

Is that fair to the console guys who paid full price? No. Its not. But PC players paid full price from the get-go and have received FAR less than console players every which way you look at it. The argument about what is 'fair' doesn't fit this scenario. The thing is, this isn't about PC vs Console and I don't know why some people want to make it about that. (not saying you are, its just a comment trend) Its about PC being shafted by NRS. If the shoe was on the other foot, I would be in full support of the console players seeking some reparation(s) for the crap treatment they had received.

If the DLC is released and its full priced and NRS flat out says 'We have to sell it to fund the PC version' I'll scoop it up and shrug and say 'It was worth it. I like MKX', but outside of them saying that, I feel like we absolutely deserve it either free, or heavily discounted.
 
I got to play eight matches yesterday, and had a great time. The Online is truly night and day.

My first match was against our own @RM slacked , which was the first Alien I ever fought. Looks like he and I are in the same region, and it felt like Offline to me.

My next two matches were against someone who I think was new to the game, and I think they were near region and still felt like Offline.

My last five matches were against someone who I think was Worldwide, and his system had a yellow performance level. There was a little lag and input delay there, but it was still much better than classic Online on its best day.

I'm recording all my matches with ShadowPlay and throwing them up on YouTube too.

Looking forward to playing more this weekend.

Interestingly, I've noticed the Beta shares your Audio and Video settings with the vanilla game. So when I go and adjust my Audio levels in the Beta, for example, they'll be adjusted in my base game as well.

Hope there's no issue or file corruption when uninstalling next week.
 
I got to play eight matches yesterday, and had a great time. The Online is truly night and day.

My first match was against our own @RM slacked , which was the first Alien I ever fought. Looks like he and I are in the same region, and it felt like Offline to me.

My next two matches were against someone who I think was new to the game, and I think they were near region and still felt like Offline.

My last five matches were against someone who I think was Worldwide, and his system had a yellow performance level. There was a little lag and input delay there, but it was still much better than classic Online on its best day.

I'm recording all my matches with ShadowPlay and throwing them up on YouTube too.

Looking forward to playing more this weekend.

Interestingly, I've noticed the Beta shares your Audio and Video settings with the vanilla game. So when I go and adjust my Audio levels in the Beta, for example, they'll be adjusted in my base game as well.

Hope there's no issue or file corruption when uninstalling next week.
there should not be, because it is two separate game folders for two different games.
btw, we can play if you'd like. add me on steam. BoromiRofGeo.
oh nevermind i forgot there is no private match button. but you can still add, we'll play in the future i hope.
that would depend if i have to buy mkxl again or not. if second - ill pass. already waiting for tekken 7 on pc.
 

EntropicByDesign

It's all so very confusing.
Quick question..

Is there no training mode? I had wanted to jump in and try to remember WTF I was doing and fiddle with some Smoke combos then jump online, but its greyed out. Im guessing if I load the vanilla game (Its not even installed atm) I wont have KP2..
 
there should not be, because it is two separate game folders for two different games.
btw, we can play if you'd like. add me on steam. BoromiRofGeo.
oh nevermind i forgot there is no private match button. but you can still add, we'll play in the future i hope.
that would depend if i have to buy mkxl again or not. if second - ill pass. already waiting for tekken 7 on pc.
Cool. I don't expect to be on today, but hopefully tomorrow.
 
Quick question..

Is there no training mode? I had wanted to jump in and try to remember WTF I was doing and fiddle with some Smoke combos then jump online, but its greyed out. Im guessing if I load the vanilla game (Its not even installed atm) I wont have KP2..
There is no Training Mode, Online only as this is an Online Beta. It was the same with Consoles, as I understand it.
 
Fair enough and makes sense. I'll just stick to who i vaguely remember how to play, lol.
Since my core game is still installed, I quickly fired it up and practiced with my mains for a few minutes since it's been a bit.

That's actually when I noticed about the Audio/Video setting sharing.
 

SaSSolino

Soul Stealing Loyalist
you expect them to give you all a 30 dollar dlc package for free because you had to wait 6 months for a free one?
it's 20 dollars if I'm not mistaken and yes, I do. the wait itself isn't the problem, the problem is that PC players were left behind entirely, not told to wait, and now they changed their minds because Injustice 2 is coming out on PC too and no other reason.

I don't really expect it for free, but it should be. a discount would be ok if we were told to wait because they needed time fixing all that they fucked up with the porting before.
 

Immortal

Blind justice....
People also forget this is a 4 day beta. After that we will have to wait like 2 -6 weeks for the release. There will be console patch first and after that they will release the full thing. So while it's great now we still have quite a long road ahead before we get the full thing.
 

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