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General/Other - Unbreakable MKXL (UNBREAKABLE )SUB-ZERO ESSENTIALS IMPROVMENTS

Wouldn't it be great for unbreakable to get a whole new play style?

  • yes

    Votes: 13 38.2%
  • no

    Votes: 15 44.1%
  • yes but this us too much

    Votes: 6 17.6%

  • Total voters
    34

colby4898

Special Forces Sonya Up-player
If ice aura is active the opponent takes 15% of the damage inflicted on you. i.e. you get hit with a 40% combo? the opponent receives 6% damage. When ex ice aura is active it does 25% because of the reduction of damage received to sub :D
 
If ice aura is active the opponent takes 15% of the damage inflicted on you. i.e. you get hit with a 40% combo? the opponent receives 6% damage. When ex ice aura is active it does 25% because of the reduction of damage received to sub :D
so if they hit him they take damage
 
What I Find ridiculous is that Unbreakable gets dot damage when he has the aura on.
he gets dot damage from: caltrops, God ray, alien acid, reptile ex acid spit,Flame fist dot, fistcuff dot,and Hellfire dot
He's supposed to get no chip when he has aura on.
 
What I Find ridiculous is that Unbreakable gets dot damage when he has the aura on.
he gets dot damage from: caltrops, God ray, alien acid, reptile ex acid spit,Flame fist dot, fistcuff dot,and Hellfire dot
He's supposed to get no chip when he has aura on.
one you shouldn't take this thread seriously, two regular aura doesn't give you the chip ability read more carefully also cyber sub zero has it
 

Nu-Skoool

Feel the nerf of despair
One of the bigger concerns was his meter building. Improved neutral has already been stated, and honestly he does need variation specific neutral changes. It's been suggested his neutral is based off the clone and it makes sense looking at the character as a whole.

A better d2 could also mitigate the need for parry to AA.
 
Im guessing you don't really understand Unbreakable currently.

If Blood God can be in the game and be viable, so can Unbreakable. Defensive variations will never break this game. To compare balancing Unbreakable to be anything like Alien currently is completely absurd.
We'll see it only takes one patch to make you guys complain
 
Do you even understand what your talking about or just being ignorant? serious question, i know a lot of tym users don't have brains
Question. Which character has the worst variation in this game?
Which variation of this game has Zero chance to defeat the opposing variation of other characters?
Which variation of this game has no winning matchups?
Please answer me.
I thought it was Sub Zero Unbreakakable.
But I'm a dunce.
Please, let me know.
 
Question. Which character has the worst variation in this game?
Which variation of this game has Zero chance to defeat the opposing variation of other characters?
Which variation of this game has no winning matchups?
Please answer me.
I thought it was Sub Zero Unbreakakable.
But I'm a dunce.
Please, let me know.
you act like an kid so i'm not gonna respond to you anymore
 

UsedForGlue

"Strength isn't everything"
one you shouldn't take this thread seriously, two regular aura doesn't give you the chip ability read more carefully also cyber sub zero has it
"Regular Aura doesn't give you the chip ability", You don't have a clue what you are talking about, yet you are all over the backend of this thread as the loudest person for some reason.

The fact that you just generalised TYM members, criticised "them" for being stupid whilst ordering people to "read more carefully", yet your posts are barely legible in all aspects, they have no punctuation, grammatical errors on almost every word and absolutely no thought or point to them.
Start by correcting that and checking your attitude, and then join the conversation properly.
 
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MadeOfMetal

Kenshi Srubtastic,Cyrax, Special Forces Mains
what Unbreakable really needs is:

  • Frost shield to parry jip's and crossovers as well as NJP.
  • D3 to be 7 frames startup
  • Aura to be less recovery and or Faster on startup so he has more moves than just B12 xx Aura into 242. and so those links are easier to get consistantly. EX should be considerably faster and recover about in half the time of the normal one.
  • Aura should protect against Damage Over Time moves like poision/Acid/Burn I.E. Noxious/Acidic/Venomous.
and he would be great ohh another great addition that doesn't need to be added but could be cool is Sub could Freeze opponent twice in one combo in this variation. like Frost shield freeze xx 3 hit normal xx ice ball/Freeze combo xx ender. for just an example. it think that could help with low damage he has. just being able to actually get good decent damage out of parry along with the suggested above that jip OH's and Crossovers would still get froze as well as JIK and Neutral Jump Puch when Frost shield is active and it looks like regions would collide.
 
"Regular Aura doesn't give you the chip ability", You don't have a clue what you are talking about, yet you are all over the backend of this thread as the loudest person for some reason.

The fact that you just generalised TYM members, criticised "them" for being stupid whilst ordering people to "read more carefully", yet your posts are barely legible in all aspects, they have no punctuation, grammatical errors on almost every word and absolutely no thought or point to them.
Start by correcting that and checking your attitude, and then join the conversation properly.
ignored
 

Bruno-NeoSpace

They see me zonin', they hatin'
You're asking for too much... I'll stick with @YOMI REO 's wish list:

Sub-Zero:
- Jump 1 slightly normalized.
- J+3 normalized.
- D+1 is now 8 frames.
- Permafrost (1,1,4) is now a hard knockdown.
- Hurtbox on D+4 slightly increased.
- Frost Bomb (D,B+1+BLK) no longer has any push back on block.

Unbreakable:
- Normal parry is now 2F start up
- EX parry is now 1F start up
- Ice Parry now breaks upon colliding with a projectile attack and allows Sub-Zero to move and recover instantly
- EX Ice Parry now breaks upon colliding with a projectile attack and allows Sub-Zero to move and recover instantly
- Ice Aura no longer let's the opponent build meter when Sub-Zero is blocking any attacks.
- EX Ice Aura no longer let's the opponent build meter when Sub-Zero is blocking any attacks.
One more buff that i'd like to see is the EX parry being able to hold it for a while like Assassin's parry.
 

Tanno

The Fantasy is the Reality of the Mind
Unbreakable:
- Normal parry is now 2F start up
- EX parry is now 1F start up
- Ice Parry now breaks upon colliding with a projectile attack and allows Sub-Zero to move and recover instantly
- EX Ice Parry now breaks upon colliding with a projectile attack and allows Sub-Zero to move and recover instantly
- Ice Aura no longer let's the opponent build meter when Sub-Zero is blocking any attacks.
- EX Ice Aura no longer let's the opponent build meter when Sub-Zero is blocking any attacks.

Grandmaster:
- Ice Shatter combos in the corner now have increased damage scaling.

Cryomancer:
- Regular Frost Hammer is now 0 on block.
- The last hit of Quick Slice (1,1,1) is now an Overhead.
If you mean this, then, I agree, but with some slight tweaks and fixes.

Ice Aura needs to fix the chip DMG protection. In the Move List it said no chip DMG, therefore, I see that the chip DMG and the DOT should pose NO DMG on Sub Zero, when Ice Aura is on. The Ice Aura is the living Ice Klone protecting Sub Zero, in a sense.
Ice Aura should shatter when an EX move hits him, while helping Sub Zero keep moving, i.e.:

When Aura on Sub Zero runs towards the opponent, who projectiles him. His projectile hits the Aura and shatters, BUT Sub Zero keeps running towards him no matter what (just like Jason's perfect armor).

I, also, agree with @MadeOfMetal 's idea of having the Ice Parry (Barrier of Frost) to freeze the other attacks (jumps and tele-attacks), EXCEPT of the X-Ray.

Finally, he should get buffed at the body strength like the other variations do have. When I see his attacks, I feel that he's a bit weak.
 

Jeffrey Wolf

YouTube: Jeffrey B Wolf
These just keep popping up for Cryo and Unbreakable, don't they? I guess it's cool that there's this much hype for Sub =)

Btw, to those saying that Unbreakable has no winning match ups, that's untrue. He beats Grandmaster, and no, I'm not joking.
 

MadeOfMetal

Kenshi Srubtastic,Cyrax, Special Forces Mains
These just keep popping up for Cryo and Unbreakable, don't they? I guess it's cool that there's this much hype for Sub =)

Btw, to those saying that Unbreakable has no winning match ups, that's untrue. He beats Grandmaster, and no, I'm not joking.
im almost betting you where oddly drawn to his Moonlike MK symbol;)