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Injustice 2 at GamesCom 2016

and he's already hinted at 10 dlc characters so we have a lot to hope for
Yeah, Boon said this game would have a greater number of dlc than MKX in past comments. Unfortunately they will come at a premium I bet. If you counted up all the placeholders you can see there are 28 slots but it's nice to hear him confirm that.

In the end this game will have a min of 38 maybe if we are lucky 40 chars. That would add a lot of longevity to the game that's for sure. I just hope we only have one non-dc dlc char. I really want to this to be a pure DC game. Now back to fantasizing about a Marvel vs. DC by NRS. Hah, sigh....
 

buyacushun

Normalize grab immunity.
I understand, but there is no window to tech / escape the second hit (the exploison) if there was, she would never be able to land it, even if the explosion was unblockable.



You have to keep in mind, NRS (attempts to) walks the line between casual and hardcore. They try to make a game that is interesting for button mashers and tournament level players. It is morally commendable, but technically almost impossible. So you have to take the meat with the gristle whichever side of the fence you're on. We get a technical game with a bunch of moves with no competitive use, they get a casual game with a bunch of mechanics they never both to understand.

Capcom gives no fucks about the casual crowd, so even though there are plenty of colorful characters casual players would like to play, they will never win a single round with fang or necalli or karin because they are technical as shit.

Ergo, Cyborg has a shitty trait because somebody at NRS said it would be cool if the robot guy could self repair (cause thats what he does in the comics) but the balance team was like, okay but that's going to be broken as shit in tournament. The compromise? Cyborg has execution heavy IAFBs for us, and a useless healing trait for them.
I don't see how it'd be a "never" thing. Arrow's was unblockable and he had setups fot his. I think one was inescapable. I was thinking you could choose to combo or plant it like rocket raccoon in UMVC3.

As for the the healing, I think it could be done much better than the "make the player a sitting duck" option NRS has given us twice. Could be something like Elena in SF4 and cyborg ends certain combos for Less damage to activate it for a small chunk of health back. Maybe make some moves give him health back like Ragna in blazblue.

Healing is a strange thing to balance in fighting games but it can be and has been done better besides making it near useless in even the lowest level matches. I mean even the most casual of players must try and use that move and notice how careful they'd have to be.
 
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Fred Marvel

It's actually Freddy Marvel
In the end this game will have a min of 38 maybe if we are lucky 40 chars. That would add a lot of longevity to the game that's for sure. I just hope we only have one non-dc dlc char. I really want to this to be a pure DC game. Now back to fantasizing about a Marvel vs. DC by NRS. Hah, sigh....
i doubt 40 but that would be great especially since they are doing heavily fan requested characters. Sub-Zero or possibly a different MK character is a 100% guarantee i think theres a chance Spawn could still happen too since WB had the rights to use him in a game. i really hope its only 1 but im pretty sure theres no way they would do more than 2 in a DC fighting game. i was pretty pissed that MKXL had 4 i would have rather had 4 palette swap ninjas lol
 

SkaGoogle

Tailgates & Tan-lines !
here's the characters I don't think will make it from inj1 because they can be replaced by character similar or doesn't work in the story etc..

Nightwing (probably will be replaced with red hood unless they want to continue Damion wayne storyline.)

Hawkgirl (could be replaced by hawkman)

Batgirl (for obv reasons)

Scorpion

killerfrost (replaced by cap cold)

catwoman

zod

deathstoke (might be used as a skin)

ares

zatana (replaced with dr. fate)

Some characters I think will return just because their designs are too unique to get rid of like grundy/MMh/bane.
 

Fred Marvel

It's actually Freddy Marvel
here's the characters I don't think will make it from inj1 because they can be replaced by character similar or doesn't work in the story etc..

Nightwing (probably will be replaced with red hood unless they want to continue Damion wayne storyline.)

Hawkgirl (could be replaced by hawkman)

Batgirl (for obv reasons)

Scorpion

killerfrost (replaced by cap cold)

catwoman

zod

deathstoke (might be used as a skin)

ares

zatana (replaced with dr. fate)

Some characters I think will return just because their designs are too unique to get rid of like grundy/MMh/bane.
i wouldnt hold my breath for grundy or bane
 

Gooberking

FGC Cannon Fodder
I really hope Injustice 2 comes to PC, I switched to PC gaming and don't regret it but I really do not want to buy a console for 1 game.
Well, Ed did say it was likely somewhat recently. With all of the other fighters on or heading to PC, it's got to be hard to totally ignore for them.

I'm not sure if anyone will trust buying it if they don't get MKXL on PC though, which could be a thing soon (Crossed Fingers). I honestly think them having an interest in having IJ2 on PC helps the odds there a lot, but so far PC has been left swinging in limbo land.
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
WW's face looks more feminine and structured better which I knew they would, I mean first tease people lose their shit mean while like a year til the game hits from that point lol Can already tell the games, faces are looking more and more polished. Harley's is perfection.
 

trufenix

bye felicia
As for the the healing, I think it could be done much better than the "make the player a sitting duck" option NRS has given us twice. Could be something like Elena in SF4 and cyborg ends certain combos for Less damage to activate it for a small chunk of health back. Maybe make some moves give him health back like Ragna in blazblue.
You won't hear me say they couldn't have done a better job with some of the traits in Injustice. Some of them, like Nightwing and Zod and even Batman were creative and useful and character fitting, most were not even the one's that we found uses for.

Healing is a strange thing to balance in fighting games but it can be and has been done better besides making it near useless in even the lowest level matches. I mean even the most casual of players must try and use that move and notice how careful they'd have to be.
It is not hard to find the line of logic, Cyborg was (at least intended to be) a zoner, giving him a powerful healing tool would be dangerous to say the least. Again, I'm not saying they didn't blow it given he launched with broken IAFBS but was nerfed into competitive non-existence and never recovered. I'm just saying that most characters in other games that heal do so at the expense of pressure after a knockdown or something. Giving a character like MK9 Kenshi or Kabal or Freddy a healing tool would have been a nightmare even if it was as shitty as Cyborgs.
 

Evil Canadian

G O K U
Premium Supporter
except batman.
Sorry can't stand for this SCRUB talk to get through!!!!!!!!!!

Anyway yeah WW has batman beat on every level and he knows it. In fact its a fairly major plot point in the new 52 that Batman has a contingency plan for literally everyone but wonder woman, he just hopes superman would be around to stop her if she goes rogue.
 

trufenix

bye felicia
Sorry can't stand for this SCRUB talk to get through!!!!!!!!!!

Anyway yeah WW has batman beat on every level and he knows it. In fact its a fairly major plot point in the new 52 that Batman has a contingency plan for literally everyone but wonder woman, he just hopes superman would be around to stop her if she goes rogue.
Right, but in the end Batman would still win. Welcome to comics.
 

buyacushun

Normalize grab immunity.
You won't hear me say they couldn't have done a better job with some of the traits in Injustice. Some of them, like Nightwing and Zod and even Batman were creative and useful and character fitting, most were not even the one's that we found uses for.



It is not hard to find the line of logic, Cyborg was (at least intended to be) a zoner, giving him a powerful healing tool would be dangerous to say the least. Again, I'm not saying they didn't blow it given he launched with broken IAFBS but was nerfed into competitive non-existence and never recovered. I'm just saying that most characters in other games that heal do so at the expense of pressure after a knockdown or something. Giving a character like MK9 Kenshi or Kabal or Freddy a healing tool would have been a nightmare even if it was as shitty as Cyborgs.
I think we're talking about the same issue from two different sides. So I think we can both agree NRS should do a better job catering to casuals looking to play a DC fighting game and competitive players in terms of overall move usefulness and balance. And I think a healing Zoner could be done. Maybe not any MK9 characters cause from what I hear that balance was a mess. Maybe not even Cyborg. But if you decide a zoner can heal then you should figure out how to actually work that in to that character's game.

I do hope we get more cohesive traits. Some that really add to the style/plan of the character. Like what they did with Harley. Instead of ones like Superman's where he just uses it and it didn't really add anything. Not to say they shouldn't do buff traits because I thought Doomsday was designed well and his trait added to the character and sort of completed him.
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
DWhat I found interesting was Pre New 52 via Towel of Babel he had a plan for everyone including WW I also seem to remember the movie that was based off of it JL doom Batman had a plan in place to poison her make her hallucinate til she gave out, yet i the New 52 he had no plan for her lol.
 

Ryu Hayabusa

Filthy Casual
DWhat I found interesting was Pre New 52 via Towel of Babel he had a plan for everyone including WW I also seem to remember the movie that was based off of it JL doom Batman had a plan in place to poison her make her hallucinate til she gave out, yet i the New 52 he had no plan for her lol.
Pre-52 his plan for Wonder Woman was utter garbage, writer nerfed flash and Wonder Woman. Wonder Woman fought for 1000 years in Asgard along side superman and DC thor. Lasso deals with illusions + healing factor that not only heals flesh but bones aswell.
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
Pre-52 his plan for Wonder Woman was utter garbage, writer nerfed flash and Wonder Woman. Wonder Woman fought for 1000 years in Asgard along side superman and DC thor. Lasso deals with illusions + healing factor that not only heals flesh but bones aswell.
Yeah lol I hear ya. I think Batman would be better off acquiring some kind of magic amazonian weapon to deal with her similar to him getting Kryptonite vs Superman to at least deal with her, I noticed in TAS they also made her weaker to poisons etc that episode vs. Black Manta's dart lol. Of course WW not nerfed should tank that easily but yeah with Flash especially I've noticed they totally nerf him in a lot of stories, I remember reading in a battle forum once this one guy was so insistent that Spider-Man can beat Flash because Deathstroke tripped him.....I'm like really dude? You're using PIS as a reason why Spider-Man can beat Flash when that would never happen? lol Then he tried telling me "Spidey-Sense" would tell him when Flash is around but I just asked him is Spidey-Sense lightspeed? Curious lol

But yeah of course there's also the good old Justice Buster haha. That suit was awesome, I remember some people felt it was bs against GL and Flash.
 

Ryu Hayabusa

Filthy Casual
Yeah lol I hear ya. I think Batman would be better off acquiring some kind of magic amazonian weapon to deal with her similar to him getting Kryptonite vs Superman to at least deal with her, I noticed in TAS they also made her weaker to poisons etc that episode vs. Black Manta's dart lol. Of course WW not nerfed should tank that easily but yeah with Flash especially I've noticed they totally nerf him in a lot of stories, I remember reading in a battle forum once this one guy was so insistent that Spider-Man can beat Flash because Deathstroke tripped him.....I'm like really dude? You're using PIS as a reason why Spider-Man can beat Flash when that would never happen? lol Then he tried telling me "Spidey-Sense" would tell him when Flash is around but I just asked him is Spidey-Sense lightspeed? Curious lol

But yeah of course there's also the good old Justice Buster haha. That suit was awesome, I remember some people felt it was bs against GL and Flash.
In endgame(written by scott snyder) batman pulled out lasso of lies crafted by Hephaestus which he bought from some magic black market. Lasso made her believe what batman wanted. It wasn't character specific weakness, it would have worked on anyone.

I don't think green lantern was part of endgame. He only fought Aquaman, flash , wonder woman and supes.
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
@ Evil Canadian Ehh no powers IDK, Batman is smarter than Diana on equal footing I think he could beat any of the JL in H2H honestly. I know she's immortal but he's also mastered every Martial art known to man, he even taught Superman and GL and Barry how to fight...I do think Batman vs. WW in H2H no weapons, no powers would be close honestly.

@Ryu Hayabusa Ahh the N52 version right? That's interesting though...not surprised he found it, between his smarts and money I'm sure he can find anything on Earth with the resources he has.

The one I'm referring to is the classic JB suit, the New 52 one worked a little differently didn't it? Didn't seem as powerful as the original.

You may have to translate it. I don't think GL was in that fight but it was designed to counter Hal's ring.

http://es.batman.wikia.com/wiki/Justice_Buster
 
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