Question - High Tech Jacqui HIGH TECH buff ideas..

Pan1cMode · Jul 28, 2016

Dankster Morgan said:
I agree to some extent. But it's hard to lab a vortex lol.

What vortex?

SaltShaker · Jul 28, 2016

Dankster Morgan said:
I agree to some extent. But it's hard to lab a vortex lol.

Coming from these Jacqui "complaints", and reading this comment here from a fellow CSZ victim of unlabbed complaints, a dark cloud just rose over this sunny day.

STB Krizbe · Jul 28, 2016

Give her a projectile. Not a good one....make it as slow as cassies standing gunshot and she'll be fine.

Dankster Morgan · Jul 28, 2016

Pan1cMode said:
What vortex?

I'm not talking about high tech. The shotgun restand I mean.

Dankster Morgan · Jul 28, 2016

SaltShaker said:
Coming from these Jacqui "complaints", and reading this comment here from a fellow CSZ victim of unlabbed complaints, a dark cloud just rose over this sunny day.

I know. I'm not trying to get her nerfed. At all. She is a strong character that shouldn't be touched, especially if the top tiers aren't touched.

SaltShaker · Jul 28, 2016

Dankster Morgan said:
I know. I'm not trying to get her nerfed. At all. She is a strong character that shouldn't be touched, especially if the top tiers aren't touched.

One unneeded nerf to HT and she'll end up like, wait, what's his name?

Reminds me of that movie The Forgotten, starring CSZ.

Dankster Morgan · Jul 28, 2016

SaltShaker said:
One nerf to HT and she'll end up like, wait, what's his name?

Reminds me of that movie The Forgotten, starring CSZ.

Who?

SaltShaker · Jul 28, 2016

Dankster Morgan said:
Who?

I'm not sure. What was I talking about again? Oh that's right, Jacqui.

Pan1cMode · Jul 28, 2016

Dankster Morgan said:
I'm not talking about high tech. The shotgun restand I mean.

... This is a high tech thread.

Dankster Morgan said:
I know. I'm not trying to get her nerfed. At all. She is a strong character that shouldn't be touched, especially if the top tiers aren't touched.

What? High tech definitely needs some help.

Dankster Morgan · Jul 28, 2016

Pan1cMode said:
... This is a high tech thread.

What? High tech definitely needs some help.

I was talking about Jacqui as a whole. I'm aware that this is a HT thread. I was responding to a post that said Jacqui wasn't labbed. Not that HT Jacqui wasn't labbed. That Jacqui wasn't labbed. That's kinda where I'm coming from.

Pan1cMode · Jul 28, 2016

Dankster Morgan said:
I was talking about Jacqui as a whole. I'm aware that this is a HT thread. I was responding to a post that said Jacqui wasn't labbed. Not that HT Jacqui wasn't labbed. That Jacqui wasn't labbed. That's kinda where I'm coming from.

High tech specifically isn't labbed because it's a very rare tournament character and she requires execution.

In fact, Jacqui is comparatively rare herself.

Dankster Morgan · Jul 28, 2016

Pan1cMode said:
High tech specifically isn't labbed because it's a very rare tournament character and she requires execution.

In fact, Jacqui is comparatively rare herself.

Which isn't what I was trying to say... I was trying to say that people for the most part aren't losing to Shotgun and Full Auto or a lack of labbing. They're just really good. But yes, you are right, this is a High Tech thread so I'll keep that out of here. My apologies.

Rip Torn · Jul 28, 2016

Pan1cMode said:
This doesn't really effect her + frames. Every cancel that jails should still jail. All those cancels that don't jail will still have a gap in them (as far as I know there aren't any cancels where 3 extra frames would make anything else jail).

If you're worried about the gap in s4~df2 disappearing; shotgun df2 is 12 frames and there's still a gap.

s4~df2 in shotgun doesn't have a gap.

oaoo94 · Jul 28, 2016

Pan1cMode said:
You can poke or armour out after the df2 if you block it ducking. It only legit jails against Goro and Ferra/Torr.

Why was the computer who ,mind you, was set to REVERSAL on the fastest armor in the game, not able to armor out? I mean no matter if you're ducking or not the thing still jails. Wouldn't it?

Pan1cMode · Jul 28, 2016

oaoo94 said:
Why was the computer who ,mind you, was set to REVERSAL on the fastest armor in the game, not able to armor out? I mean no matter if you're ducking or not the thing still jails. Wouldn't it?

I'll prove it to you. Gimme a minute and I'll record a video. When you duck there is more pushback.

EDIT:

Here you go

Pan1cMode · Jul 28, 2016

Rip Torn said:
s4~df2 in shotgun doesn't have a gap.

You're right about that. I stand corrected

Either way, even in its current state it's hardly a block infinite. Most characters low profile the mid and some have such stupid hitboxes that the s4 whiffs anyways.

oaoo94 · Jul 28, 2016

Pan1cMode said:
I'll prove it to you. Gimme a minute and I'll record a video. When you duck there is more pushback.

EDIT:

Here you go

Oh ok I see. Thanks for actually proving it doesn't jail and not just saying "It doesn't jail."

oaoo94 · Jul 28, 2016

YoloRoll1stHit said:
I have never seen one single person in TYM post a video about doing HT run cancel on DUCKING computer
Ever.
Show me. Thanks

Huh?

YoloRoll1stHit · Jul 28, 2016

oaoo94 said:
Huh?

Panicmode proved his point, that's what I meant. So I'm gonna delete my comment

omooba · Jul 29, 2016

OfficialYungmonster said:
You act like when high tech gets in your just automatically dead... That's not true at all. She gets one cancel that ends with quick bust and she's plus 2. You can back dash after that since her range is shit. You act like she's plus 11 after everything. She's plus 2.

you act like you have to end every hit in quick burst... that's probably the worst thing to end them in which i'm pretty sure you know so i'm damn near about to call you out on downplaying
and what i act like is on paper she's the most likely character to kill you if she gets in. not get in as in get a hit i mean get in as in get you on hit or blocking as soon as it's her turn she's the most likely character on paper to kill you

Rip Torn · Jul 29, 2016

omooba said:
you act like you have to end every hit in quick burst... that's probably the worst thing to end them in which i'm pretty sure you know so i'm damn near about to call you out on downplaying
and what i act like is on paper she's the most likely character to kill you if she gets in. not get in as in get a hit i mean get in as in get you on hit or blocking as soon as it's her turn she's the most likely character on paper to kill you

Ending in quick burst is a great option since you can always charge/cancel it. There are actually scarier characters up close, imo (flame fist, dragons fire, A-List). HT is pretty low tier so there isn't much to downplay.

omooba · Jul 29, 2016

Rip Torn said:
Ending in quick burst is a great option since you can always charge/cancel it. There are actually scarier characters up close, imo (flame fist, dragons fire, A-List). HT is pretty low tier so there isn't much to downplay.

ok let's so who you're saying is scarier
flame fist- no 50/50's needs meter to be safe on pressure
dragon's fire- jails but no 50/50's
a-list-jails ,psuedo 50/50, vortex
ht- jailing TRUE 50/50's, true block infinites, psuedo block infinites and does more meterless dmg than both liu kang's do with a bar
i really don't think this is even a debate. she's not low tier she's mid tier, shit reo thinks she's high tier. but there's definitely NOBODY in this game better up close. i can't think of a way to make her more broken up close other than fixing her problems. that's why again i say if you buff her you better nerf the shit out of her

Pan1cMode · Jul 29, 2016

omooba said:
you act like you have to end every hit in quick burst... that's probably the worst thing to end them in which i'm pretty sure you know so i'm damn near about to call you out on downplaying
and what i act like is on paper she's the most likely character to kill you if she gets in. not get in as in get a hit i mean get in as in get you on hit or blocking as soon as it's her turn she's the most likely character on paper to kill you

Johnny Cage, D'Vorah, Liu Kang; hell even Kano and Takeda are just as scary up close and have more ranged options.

Dankster Morgan · Jul 29, 2016

Pan1cMode said:
Johnny Cage, D'Vorah, Liu Kang; hell even Kano and Takeda are just as scary up close and have more ranged options.

Kano is terrifying

OfficialYungmonster · Jul 29, 2016

omooba said:
ok let's so who you're saying is scarier
flame fist- no 50/50's needs meter to be safe on pressure
dragon's fire- jails but no 50/50's
a-list-jails ,psuedo 50/50, vortex
ht- jailing TRUE 50/50's, true block infinites, psuedo block infinites and does more meterless dmg than both liu kang's do with a bar
i really don't think this is even a debate. she's not low tier she's mid tier, shit reo thinks she's high tier. but there's definitely NOBODY in this game better up close. i can't think of a way to make her more broken up close other than fixing her problems. that's why again i say if you buff her you better nerf the shit out of her

Stop!!! You said high tech kills you up close more than flameflist... Omggg

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