General/Other - Tempest Am I the only one who hates the 2 frame link?

hkriderz · Jul 28, 2016

I wish they would add a few frames of hit advantage (like 4 or 5) so it would be completely 100% dependable. I hate opting to 26% punishes or using meter at around 100+ ping after the tough footsies game midscreen against the Dvorah's and Alien's of the world. It feels not worth it at all to go for. PLus it won't be broke since it's not a mixup and you can't really do anything new with it. A few more frames of hit advantage would be helpful.

Also 112124xx orbiting hat should work on everybody and not just females midscreen. That seems like a very unnecessary and weird hitbox issue. Also it would be a much easier hitconfirm. I would also like 112124 spin to work midscreen too, but I'll settle for first two. Paulo Pls

tafka Djinn · Jul 28, 2016

While we're at it, let's make it to where Liu Kang can do the ol' u/b d/f+1 style IAFBs, and buffer them. I mean, I hate opting to sub-40% combos in the corner, or using meter at all.
OR
We can keep rewarding higher execution?

Weird hurtbox issues are a pain though, that I'll concede.

Abubagasa · Jul 28, 2016

112124 spin works midscreen in tempest, hold forward 1 after spin is performed and you will spin into them comboing.

hkriderz · Jul 28, 2016

tafka Djinn said:
While we're at it, let's make it to where Liu Kang can do the ol' u/b d/f+1 style IAFBs, and buffer them. I mean, I hate opting to sub-40% combos in the corner, or using meter at all.
OR
We can keep rewarding higher execution?

Weird hurtbox issues are a pain though, that I'll concede.

How is getting 36% instead of 26% a reward for high execution? Countless other characters get more meterless or with one bar with braindead easy combos yet we are supposed to connect a 2 frame link each time to get a decent punish?

hkriderz · Jul 28, 2016

Abubagasa said:
112124 spin works midscreen in tempest, hold forward 1 after spin is performed and you will spin into them comboing.

Really?
I did not know that. I'll try that next time. But 112124 orbiting hat should work on everyone

honeybooboo · Jul 28, 2016

hkriderz said:
How is getting 36% instead of 26% a reward for high execution? Countless other characters get more meterless or with one bar with braindead easy combos yet we are supposed to connect a 2 frame link each time to get a decent punish?

If theres one thing i learned from tym, its that you cant say "its not fair that i cant x with this character, when this character can y much better"

hkriderz · Jul 28, 2016

honeybooboo said:
If theres one thing i learned from tym, its that you cant say "its not fair that i cant x with this character, when this character can y much better"

It doesn't seem right when I have to be frame perfect to get something my opponents don't even need to think about. I don't think that truly applies to that argument. It's a punish. Give me a dependable punish

tafka Djinn · Jul 28, 2016

hkriderz said:
It doesn't seem right when I have to be frame perfect to get something my opponents don't even need to think about. I don't think that truly applies to that argument. It's a punish. Give me a dependable punish

Hi, I'm kind of a stickler Meseeks, but given that it's a 2f link you don't have to be frame perfect now do you? And even if you think the reward is inadequate, getting more meterless damage is still a reward.

Eddy Wang · Jul 28, 2016

This can help.

dennycascade · Jul 28, 2016

It really doesn't feel like a 2 frame link.

hkriderz · Jul 28, 2016

tafka Djinn said:
Hi, I'm kind of a stickler Meseeks, but given that it's a 2f link you don't have to be frame perfect now do you? And even if you think the reward is inadequate, getting more meterless damage is still a reward.

Yea that one extra frame is all I need to make it 100% reliable :DOGE

Eddy Wang · Jul 28, 2016

dennycascade said:
It really doesn't feel like a 2 frame link.

how does it feel like?

God Confirm · Jul 28, 2016

hkriderz said:
Yea that one extra frame is all I need to make it 100% reliable

well its actually a 3 frame link, so that's another extra frame for you

let us know now how many you're gonna need

jackempty0 · Jul 28, 2016

i will take your two frame link over trying to do stanky leg anyday

RM AtK! · Jul 28, 2016

Wtf 2-3 Frames is like a highly do-able 90%+ success do-able link.. Just practice man. Play other fighting games or something where you need to hit consistent 1 frame links to even do your bnbs. That'll probably help you out

tafka Djinn · Jul 28, 2016

hkriderz said:
Yea that one extra frame is all I need to make it 100% reliable

God Confirm said:
well its actually a 3 frame link, so that's another extra frame for you

let us know now how many you're gonna need

One frame is stupid, two frames is consistent, but three frames is well within reasonable expectations of execution. If people can link Slayer's 6K>2K, they can get this.

SylverRye · Jul 28, 2016

People complaining about 2 frame links? That's a new one here. Just practice it because its most likely not going to change.

BillStickers · Jul 28, 2016

Play brood mother for a week then come back to Lao with a new sense of appreciation.

RVB · Jul 28, 2016

BillStickers said:
Play brood mother for a week then come back to Lao with a new sense of appreciation.

*puts tin foil hat on* BillStickers is the head of a sinister organisation hell bent on making more people play Brood Mother, DO NOT FALL FOR HIS TRICKS!!!

TopTierHarley · Jul 28, 2016

BillStickers said:
Play brood mother for a week then come back to Lao with a new sense of appreciation.

This

dennycascade · Jul 28, 2016

Eddy Wang said:
how does it feel like?

Much easier

honeybooboo · Jul 28, 2016

tafka Djinn said:
Hi, I'm kind of a stickler Meseeks

Why did you have to bring me into this?

honeybooboo · Jul 28, 2016

BillStickers said:
Play brood mother for a week then come back to Lao with a new sense of appreciation.

If i may.
Can the same be said about BRC?

FL Rushdown · Jul 28, 2016

hkriderz said:
How is getting 36% instead of 26% a reward for high execution? Countless other characters get more meterless or with one bar with braindead easy combos yet we are supposed to connect a 2 frame link each time to get a decent punish?

if you can't play Lao, then don't play Lao.

YoloRoll1stHit · Jul 29, 2016

Edit: Nevermind, NRS only buffed ex hat on hit
But complaining about this is kinda silly.

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